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    Angry Defending yourself on the streets of Britain!

    Apparently the only way to defend yourself and your family on the streets of Britain is to pray...................................... that you can all take the beating, without any of you getting killed!

    Dad jailed for 'over-the-top self-defence' after stabbing yob who terrorised his family

    A HARD-working businessman has been jailed for stabbing a yob who had terrorised him for weeks.
    Father-of-four Robert Gee stabbed Stephen Rymer, 22, in "over the top" self-defence after he feared he was about to be killed.
    He was threatened and chased through east Hull by Rymer and a gang of four youths, when he pulled out his fishing knife and struck back.
    Now the dad has been jailed for 12 months, to his family's dismay.
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    The incident followed a month-long campaign of harassment by Rymer and his gang against the 47-year-old and his family, who lived in St John's Grove, east Hull.
    Just an hour before the confrontation, Rymer had tried to kick down the door to Gee's home.
    After seeing her partner jailed at Hidden Content , partner Hidden Content said she believes he would have been killed if the gang had caught him.
    The 40-year-old said: "It's not fair, he was provoked. We have had to move away. Rymer has caused so much trouble for us, he has picked on loads of families. I think Robert would be dead if they'd have got hold of him, he wouldn't have stood a chance. "
    In the weeks prior to the stabbing Gee and his family had made numerous calls to the police over Rymer.
    On the day of the stabbing, Gee and two of his children, aged 16 and 17, were walking to the shops along Ellerburn Grove, east Hull, when Rymer and four others saw him and began chasing him.
    Gee pulled out a pocket knife, which he used for going fishing, and told the gang to leave him alone.
    Rymer told him he also had a knife, and his friend Billy Parker then threw a glass bottle at Gee.
    He tried to run away but the gang cornered him and Gee used his knife to stab Rymer in the chest, puncturing his lung.
    Prosecutor Hidden Content said: "The Crown accept this was over the top self-defence."
    Gee, who runs his own drainage business, pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm.
    Rymer has 19 convictions and is currently in prison.


    If you run away from four known tHidden Content , who you have previously reported to the keystone cops for threatening you and your family, with them taking no action, but are then forced out of desperation to injure one of them with whatever is at hand, why is that in any way "over the top"? Hidden Content

    Tony Blair said we were going to get tough on crime.................... about 14 years ago and we are still waiting for evidence of it! Hidden Content

    In the old Wild West if you didn't have a Sheriff, or he was useless you had to solve your own differences.
    Well now we have useless Sheriffs, only capable of locking up drunks, rustlers and innocent people, so it seems the only way forward is to go back, to self administered justice where residents neighbourhood watch schemes are allowed to kick the crap out of the vermin frightening people to death on our streets! Hidden Content


    I hear the latest news is that they are going to close down more prisons!
    Well I might be in favour of that,............ IF they allowed the foxhunting fraternity to hunt the real vermin down with their dog packs! Hidden Content

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    Re: Defending yourself on the streets of Britain!

    He should have got a medal not a prison sentance! Just a shame that the @%^$ didnt die then it would have been one less mouth to feed in prison. If anyone tried to cause my family, friends or me any distress in the way that family was being abused by that gang then i would be doing time for murder let alone GBH!

    Its about time we started to stand up for ourselves and i wondering how long before all the trouble that is in the places like Egypt spreads over here and we stand up to the Goverment to tell them we aint happy that you sit down do fook all all day and get paid for it then make up facts and figures to suit your own needs to make you look better than you actually are! How long before they can admit that they are at fault instead of the previous goverment? Never going to happen and a honest goverment is never going to happen either!

    The justice system is the biggest joke that has ever occured and what is happening to one of my friends at the moment just proves that! Im not going into details before anyone asks. Someone can accuse you of anything and then it is your duty to prove that it is false before they will believe you instead of them proving that what they are saying is true!

    Bring back capital and corpral punishment and to hell with the doo goody tribe who say its against human rights well what about my right to walk the street without fear? Get the real criminals behind bars and not just the easy ones you can catch, cut the red tape the coppers have to go through to put these tHidden Content behind bars !!
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    Re: Defending yourself on the streets of Britain!

    As you say tink, the complete lack of real justice on our cities streets is getting beyond a joke!
    Sad to say the only time governments take any notice is when there are mass riots and those days can't be far off!
    It is happening in other countries, so it is surely our turn next and although people get hurt in such things, in many ways we have to welcome the onset of mass protests.
    All those in power do is think of money, never consequences, then make grunting noises with no substance to them, in an effort to appease the electorate!

    The same paper I got the story from, a couple of days ago, reported on the falling street crime and burglaries rates!
    Unfortunately that is only due to the fact that people have learned from bitter experience that there is simply no point in reporting crimes, as nothing ever gets investigated.
    The only ones this seems not to have occurred to is the police authorities themselves, or else they are either ignoring or denying those facts! Hidden Content

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    Re: Defending yourself on the streets of Britain!

    As you say there is no point in reporting crime now it just doesnt get you anywhere! All it does is give you a number that you can give your insurance company to get paid out with!

    With the price of fuel high on everyones list and food going up and up and just the general cost of living reaching higher and higher we are not far away from the riots that we have seen in varying countries, but that is the only way that people listen when everyone sticks together and becomes one voice. While i dont agree with the riots and general bad behavour people need to be heard and then they cannot sweep it under the carpet and think no one will notice.
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    Re: Defending yourself on the streets of Britain!

    just my personal feeling...when everyone in britiain does unite in the streets..... it'll already be too late.

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    Re: Defending yourself on the streets of Britain!

    you just feel like doing a "Harry Brown"
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    Re: Defending yourself on the streets of Britain!

    Hidden Content Originally Posted by notanotherone Hidden Content
    you just feel like doing a "Harry Brown"
    What a great film and could well be the future unless they get it sorted out before too long!
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    Re: Defending yourself on the streets of Britain!

    It is a sad endictment of our society today when the majority of us welcome vigilante justice, of the type meted out by the aforementioned "Harry Brown" in the film!
    What other alternative is there though, when the weak and innocent are enslaved and living in fear of the strong but mentally challenged minority?
    The police are unable to cope anymore, to be fair to them, largely due to budget cuts, red tape and legal "hands tied behind their backs" restraints imposed on them?

    One of the worst decisions ever made was the forming of the impotent CPS, who decide purely on cost of prosecution, if an offender should go to court or not!
    Prior to the CPS, most offenders were arrested and dragged before a judge, with no "in between" mediators to preempt a courts findings!
    It is long overdue that the CPS were shut down and the police allowed to do their jobs properly.
    The savings made on their disbandment could be used to bring criminals to trial and as an important side effect, no doubt boost police moral?

    There is a lot wrong in an American justice system, but an arrest and quick appearance before a "night court" is not one of them!
    It is a system we should adopt with great urgency nationwide, where an offender is caught and dragged before a magistrate and sentenced all within a few hours. The time and money saved, especially on low level obviously guilty crime, leading to a short sharp shock punishment seems to me to be both cost effective and more protective of the general public at large?
    That along with the "3 strikes and your out" method of confining individuals for longer terms, could do a lot to improve the general public's confidence in our antiquated, ineffectual justice system?
    So why can't we implement this major step forward? Hidden Content

    Many larger shops and almost all pubs now employ doormen or security guards to overtly keep an eye out for potential trouble at their premises.
    These security agents nowadays have to undergo mental suitability checks, before they can be licensed. So if they can do it why can't the "neighbourhood watch" scheme be enforced in the same way?
    Ok it is bound to cost us as individuals, either in rates or an "area security subsidy", but if that meant we could create jobs by employing half a dozen enforcers, purely responsible for the security and safety of our area alone, wouldn't that heightened feeling of security and peace of mind be well worth it to most of us?

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