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Gazer
28-10-2006, 06:14 PM
Iv just been out and got myself one of these's, dont ask why as i only went out to buy a new light fitting for me fish tank :roflmao:
anyway its getting Deliverd on wesnesday as anyone got one ?? if so let me know how it is please, as iv been looking at this now for a couple of weeks, the Reviews are good on it, but i would like to know first hand.

Regards Gazer.

notanotherone
29-10-2006, 08:05 AM
what ever you do dont go for a loaf of bread :roflmao:god knows what youll come back with :roflmao: your worse than me i once went for a packet of crisps and came back with a new car :roflmao:

Gazer
29-10-2006, 01:42 PM
your worse than me i once went for a packet of crisps and came back with a new car :roflmao:

lmao i did that as well, took the mrs for a drive one sunday and when we got back home found out that i ordered a new x5 :roflmao:

anyway this tv will make a nice monitor to view world of digital on lol

berley
29-10-2006, 04:29 PM
just got this one last week Currys - Shop for Flat Panel TV - SAMSUNG LE32N73BD 32" High Definition Digital LCD TV (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. and i dont notice any difference in picture even tho the dude was prattling on about 6000:1 dynamic contrast and summit about the colour - its got extended wide colour gamut ? anyhow if it had been up to me the old tv would have stayed but the daughters quite happy tho cos shes now got my 10 month old telly :) back to tv's tho the dude in the shop advised us to go for lcd rather than plasma because plasmas can get screen burn ? cant see thats the case tho otherwise peeps wouldnt be buying them

notanotherone
29-10-2006, 05:26 PM
oi berley does it show pink as green/blue :roflmao:or does it make pink turn to yellow :)

Diablo13
29-10-2006, 05:57 PM
I have had a 42" LG plasma for about 4 months now which is HD ready and I got at a nice price from Comet, but apart from cost I think I should have gone for an LCD set instead. With an LCD if you lose some of the pixels most manufacturers wont replace the set unles they are in a certain area. This does'nt apply the same to plasma because the pixels are much bigger. The disadvantage to this is that if you get any picture/signal breakup it is much more noticeable with a plasma. I dont know if its a commmon fault but on mine I tend to get pixelation and slowdown occasionalyl on screen when there is a lot going on, bit like a framerate slowdown in games. It does'nt happen a lot but when it does its very annoying and its not a cheap set.
From what I hear the plasma style is now "old" technology and LCD is the way forward as its sharper for high definition. Thats why the prices of plasmas have fallen so much recently. They do have the advantage of cutting down on your heating bills as they warm the room significantly when they have been on a couple of hours!

@ Berley sorry to rain on your parade but a 6000:1 contrast ratio is not that good anymore as many sets are now 8000:1 or 10,000:1 contrast ratio which makes the colours more vibrant. I think your salesman needed to get rid of some so I hope you got a good price? Oh well at least your daughters happy. 8-|
Nb. My apologies to Berley as Gazers later article in this thread shows that I have got my contrast ratios wrong, so I was misinformed and basically talking out of my ar$e again. :o

Gazer
29-10-2006, 11:38 PM
Hmmm well iv got a 42" plasma on the bedroom wall had it for two years now and it as been a good set, iam not to sure on the lcd tvs at the moment as looking at them in currys, cant say that the picture was any better than the plasma, and i but dont think they do a 50" lcd as yet ??

as Diablo13 says yes plasma tvs do get hot but so do the lcd tvs as i went round currys touching both sorts.

Anyway will find out if its any good on wednesday.

Diablo13
30-10-2006, 12:27 AM
@ Gazer. You ever notice any slowdown or breakup/pixelating on your present plasma then? If its just mine I'll have a moan at them as its only about 4 months old and under guarantee.
I think your right the biggest LCD I've seen is 37".
Can anyone else report similar problems with a plasma set? :-?
Thanks for the input.

Gazer
30-10-2006, 02:02 PM
@ Diablo13
Iv seen this slowdown/ breakup/pixelating in the shops but put it down to having to meany sets on one spitter, but cant say that iv had it once on the one i got, and if it happed on this new one when it comes it will be going back.

jay
30-10-2006, 07:53 PM
As far as i'm aware all Plasma's suffer from burn in, thats why I just bought a 40" LCD.

It seems that you have made the right choice Gazer, top quality set!

Apparently the set won't be 'right' until you have used it for 200 hours, this is the run in period.
These are approximate settings for this period (taken from another site)
45 contrast
45brightness
20 colour
30 sharpness
csm normal
xd on, values all at 0 and mpeg nr 3

p.s. I know almost nothing about Plasma, i've been looking up LCD's for the past 3 months

Diablo13
30-10-2006, 08:16 PM
Hi Jay, I am a bit confused by your post? First Gazer just bought a plasma set, which you say is a great choice. But then you say because of the "burn in" on plasmas thats why you bought an lcd?
You have been looking into LCD's for 3 months, but you know almost nothing about plasmas, so what are the settings for here, a plasma or an LCD? Sorry if I seem a bit picky here but I am confused as to what you are on about???

New question on Lcds then:
How many pixels need to be out and in what size area on an LCD before a supplier will accept it as faulty, generally speaking as I know different manufacturers have different criteria?

jay
30-10-2006, 09:01 PM
Sorry for the confusion

When relping to this thread I found a thread on another respected forum saying that the set was Excellent, and give the info that I passed on in my last post, so yes the settings are for the set discussed.

If you want the link to the thread pm me and i'll forward it

As for the lcd pixel return question, 5-7 is the norm but there are some suppliers that do zero( I hope I never have to find out the exact amout), also some pixels can be 'unstuck' through software or gental! rubbing

If I were you Gazer i'd enquire about "Burn in" and "run in" with the supplier

Gazer
30-10-2006, 09:29 PM
Got this off other site.

Plasma TV vs. LCD

This is a complicated topic: when choosing between LCD and plasma TVs, you're actually selecting between two competing technologies, both of which achieve similar features (i.e., bright, crystal-clear images, super color-filled pictures) and come in similar packages (i.e., 3.5 inch depth flat screen casing). To complicate the decision-making process further, price and size are two previous considerations that are rapidly becoming non-issues as LCDs are now being made in larger sizes and at competing prices with plasma TVs.

Despite all these similarities, these technologies differ in how they process and display incoming video/computer signals.
Plasma flat screen technology consists hundreds of thousands of individual pixel cells, which allow electric pulses (stemming from electrodes) to excite rare natural gases-usually xenon and neon-causing them to glow and produce light. This light illuminates the proper balance of red, green, or blue phosphors contained in each cell to display the proper color sequence from the light. Each pixel cell is essentially an individual microscopic florescent light bulb, receiving instruction from software contained on the rear electrostatic silicon board. Look very closely at a plasma TV and you can actually see the individual pixel cell coloration of red, green, and blue bars. You can also see the black ribs which separate each.
Whether spread across a flat-panel screen or placed in the heart of a projector, all LCD displays come from the same technological background. A matrix of thin-film transistors (TFTs) supplies voltage to liquid-crystal-filled cells sandwiched between two sheets of glass. When hit with an electrical charge, the crystals untwist to an exact degree to filter white light generated by a lamp behind the screen (for flat-panel TVs) or one projecting through a small LCD chip (for projection TVs). LCD monitors reproduce colors through a process of subtraction: They block out particular color wavelengths from the spectrum of white light until they're left with just the right color. And, it's the intensity of light permitted to pass through this liquid-crystal matrix that enables LCD televisions to display images chock-full of colors-or gradations of them.


PICTURE CONSIDERATIONS

CONTRAST/ BLACK LEVELS
Plasma technology has certainly achieved quite high contrast ratios, a measure of the blackest black compared to the whitest white. Many plasma display manufacturers boast a contrast ratio of 3000:1 these days though our tests have not proven these numbers out. Panasonic has long been the leader in plasma black levels and we measure contrast of a 42? HD Panasonic plasma at about ANSI 1450:1 ? still impressive. Plasma displays achieve such impressive black levels by using internal algorithms to block the power to particular pixels in order to render a pixel "dark" or black. While this can limit a plasma television?s gray scaling, it does produce exceptionally black blacks ? depending on the manufactured plasma display element (i.e. glass). A plasma TV uses the most power when it is producing full white. As a result, some 2nd tier manufactured brands of plasma TVs have an audible buzz or whining sound when displaying white or very light images.
LCD (liquid crystal diode) displays, by contrast, utilize electric charges to twist and untwist liquid crystals, which causes them to block light and, hence, emit blacks. The higher the voltage passing through the liquid crystals in a given pixel, the more fully those crystals untwist and effectively block light - all of which makes these pixels darker. As opposed to plasma, LCD displays use the most power when displaying a very dark or black image. This is a difficult process, and despite recent improvements in LCD black levels, only the best LCD displays (like those produced by Sharp and Sony) have managed to topple the 1000:1 contrast ratio barrier. Recent improvements have brought LCD displays up to the level of plasma. The one continual drawback here for LCD is off axis viewing, when black levels consistently drop.
ADVANTAGE: Closer than a year ago, but still Plasma.
LCD manufacturers have made great improvements in black levels and in many cases have managed to match the contrast ratio of plasma displays. However, Plasma TVs still maintain a clear advantage in this category due to fading blacks when viewing LCDs from off axis. For scenes with a lot of dark and light images shown simultaneously - as with content originating from DVDs, video games, and NTSC TV signals - plasma TVs still consistently outperform LCDs.
COLOR ACCURACY
In plasma displays, each pixel contains red, green, and blue elements, which work in conjunction to create 16.77 million colors. Insofar as each pixel contains all the elements needed to produce every color in the spectrum, color information was more accurately reproduced with plasma technology than it was with other display technologies. The chromaticity coordinates were more accurate on most plasma displays. Though the color saturation resulting from the pixel design of plasma displays is remarkable, LCD technology has nearly caught plasma in gray scaling color accuracy. Plasma continues to exhibit more richness in color information and more natural coloration. Today, SMPTE color coordinates in top plasma TVs still normally outperform those in LCDs, which tend toward oversaturation.
LCD displays reproduce colors by manipulating light waves and subtracting colors from white light. This is an inherently difficult template for maintaining color accuracy and vibrancy - though most LCD displays manage quite well. While color information benefits from the higher-than-average number of pixels per square inch found in LCD displays (especially when compared to plasmas), LCDs are simply not as impressive as plasmas with similar pixel counts. LCDs however, produce a typically brighter picture. Greens sometimes look too green and reds can run a bit warm, but in a room with bright outdoor lighting, an LCD would be my choice.
ADVANTAGE: Preference to plasma but depends upon room light, manufacturer and model.
Plasma color richness and naturalness will prevail in rooms with lower to normal lighting. LCDs will be better in very brightly lit rooms due to their inherent anti glare technology and brightness.
VIEWING ANGLE
Plasma manufacturers have made much of their 160? viewing angles, which is about as good as horizontal and vertical viewing angles get. This owes to the fact that each pixel produces its own light, rather than light being spread across the screen from one central source. Hence, each pixel is more readily visible because its brightness is consistent with every other pixel on the screen. One consistent area of superiority of plasma viewing angles is demonstrated when viewing dark material content, especially DVDs. Plasma TV holds the black levels from off axis, while LCDs lose black level intensity more as the angle off axis increases. This usually occurs after around 90 degrees.
LCD manufacturers have done much to improve their displays' viewing angles. The substrate material on newer-generation LCDs by Sharp and Sony has helped to expand those units' viewing angles, though they still have some ground to cover before catching plasma. Expect the best LCD displays to have between 120 and 130 degree viewing angles.
ADVANTAGE: Plasma


FUNCTIONAL CONSIDERATIONS

COMPUTER USE
LCD monitors display static images from computer or VGA sources extremely well, with full color detail, no flicker, and no screen burn-in. Moreover, the number of pixels per square inch on an LCD display is typically higher than other display technologies, so LCD monitors are especially good at displaying large amounts of data - like you would find on an Excel spreadsheet for example - with exceptional clarity and precision. For the same reasons, LCDs will also be a slightly better template for video gaming.
Plasma technology has increased anti burn in tactics as well as computer and static signal handling. There are still issues with each depending very much on the model and manufacturer. For example, most EDTV plasma televisions do not handle a computer input well and product a very jaggy image when viewing static images from same. Users may want to consider an commercial version plasma display if their application calls for a lot of computer use.

ADVANTAGE: LCD
FAST-MOVING VIDEO PLAYBACK
Plasma displays get the nod here because of their excellent performance with fast-moving images and high contrast levels. There are still some 2nd tier manufacturers whose plasma product displays some phosphor lag, a dragging from brights to darks.
While the "response time" of LCD TVs has markedly improved in the last couple of years, they still suffer from a slight "trailer" effect, where the individual pixels are just slightly out of step with the image on the screen. During fast moving sports scenes, the most discerning eyes can detect this slight motion response lag.
ADVANTAGE: Plasma
ALTITUDE USAGE
There is a reason LCD panels are the preferred visual display units for use on airplanes: LCDs aren't affected by increases or decreases in air pressure. Their performance is consistent regardless of the altitude at which they're utilized.
This is not the case for a plasma TV. The display element in plasma TVs is actually a glass substrate envelope with rare natural gases compressed therein. So, at high altitudes (6,500 feet and above), an air-pressure differential emerges, which causes plasma displays to emit a buzzing sound due to the lower air pressure. This noise can sound rather like the humming of an old neon sign. NEC has been effective in producing several plasma models that are rated to 9,500 feet.
ADVANTAGE: LCD, at 6500 feet and higher.
LONGEVITY
LCD manufacturers claim that their displays last, on average, 50,000 to 65,000 hours. In fact, an LCD TV will last as long as its backlight does - and those bulbs can sometimes be replaced! Since this is nothing more than light passing through a prismatic substrate, there is essentially nothing to wear out in an LCD monitor. However, one nasty little known fact about LCD technology is that as the backlight ages it can change colors slightly (think of florescent office lighting). When this occurs the white balance of the entire LCD will be thrown for a loop and the user will need to re-calibrate, or worse, try to replace the backlighting or ditch the unit altogether. Some of the early purchasers of larger LCD screens will be learning this tidbit in a couple of years. One thing that I?ve found in this industry, it is not easy to find out whether the backlighting on LCDs can be replaced. Manufacturers are either hesitant to discuss the topic, or they just don?t know.
Plasma, on the other hand, utilizes slight electric currents to excite a combination of noble gases (i.e., argon, neon, xenon), which glow red, blue, and/or green. This is an essentially active phenomenon, so the phosphoric elements in plasma displays fade over time. Many manufacturers state a new half life of 60,000 hours. While I am skeptical of this spec, I do believe strides have been made to nearly even the playing field with LCD. At half life, the phosphors in a plasma screen will glow half as brightly as they did when the set was new. There is no way to replace these gases; the display simply continues to grow dimmer with use.
ADVANTAGE: Even depending upon manufacturer quality.
SCREEN BURN IN
LCD technology is not prone to screen "burn-in" or "ghosting" (premature aging of pixel cells) due to the nature of the technologies ?twisting crystals.?
With plasma displays, static images will begin to "burn-in," or permanently etch the color being displayed into the glass display element. The time it takes for this to occur depends greatly on the anti burn-in technology of the manufacturer. Recent improvements by plasma manufacturers have certainly extended the time it takes to burn in a plasma pixel cell. In the past I was concerned to place a DVD on pause 15 minutes. Now, many of the enhancements such as better green phosphor material, and motion adaptive anti burn-in technology are greatly reducing the risk of burn in. It?s gotten so much better that I don?t even worry about it anymore. In a new model plasma from any top tier manufacturer I would put ?ghosting? estimates at an hour or more now (Ghosting can be ?washed? out by displaying static gray material). Permanent burn-in I would put at more than 10 hours.
ADVANTAGE: LCD, but not as much of a concern as a year ago.


OTHER CONSIDERATIONS

PRODUCTION SIZE & COST
All television measurements are stated in inches and are for diagonal measurement of the screen from corner to corner ? not including framing.
Both LCD and Plasma televisions are becoming more readily available in larger sizes though plasma still leads the size battle by a great margin. Pioneer and LG produce 61? plasma sizes while Panasonic has a readily available 65? model. Though it is not being imported into the U.S. yet, Samsung has produced a gigantic plasma television of 100 inches. Though such mammoth monitors are expensive, they exhibit none of the "kinks" one might expect with such large displays. In other words, even the largest plasma displays are reliable. Large plasma displays will consume power ? try 675 watts for a 65? display compared to around 330 watts for a 42? plasma.
The substrate material for LCD TVs has proved difficult to produce in large sizes without pixel defects owing to faulty transistors. Sharp produces one of the largest available LCD displays at 45 inches, while Samsung has a 46? LCD. Sony and NEC currently produce units measuring 40" diagonally. This will change very soon. These manufacturers will have very large LCD screens here this year if production goes as planned.
ADVANTAGE: Plasma though the playing field is leveling. Even though production costs and retail prices have come down for both technologies, plasma still has the edge as far as production cost and capacity go.
POWER CONSUMPTION
Because LCDs use florescent backlighting to produce images, they require substantially less power to operate than plasma TVs do. LCD displays consume about half the power that plasma displays consume. The reason: Plasmas use a lot of electricity to light each and every pixel you see on a screen - even the dark ones. Though plasma manufacturers have improved voltage consumption requirements a plasma TV will consume around a third more power for the same size display.
Advantage: LCD


PRICE AND RESOLUTION

LCD displays will have a higher resolution per same size comparison than plasma. The lowest resolution of a 40 inch LCD will be 1366 X 768 ? easily full HD resolution in 1080i or 720p. A 42 inch HD plasma has a resolution of 1024 X 768. While this is not truly an HDTV resolution, it?s close enough so that it?s difficult to detect the difference. A 50 inch plasma TV will have a resolution of 1366 X 768, while a 45 inch LCD displays 1920 X 1080 (1080P) resolution.

Those extra pixels and the production process of LCDs cost more money to produce. Expect to pay a third as much more for a similar size LCD than a plasma TV.
ADVANTAGE: It?s a toss up.

Diablo13
31-10-2006, 02:12 AM
WOW gazer what an interesting article. I dont pretend to understand all of it but I am a lot better informed than I was. This will be a very useful article to refer back to when I have checked out the exact specs of my plasma in the manual.
Have you got a date on the article? Be nice to know if its bang up to date with the latest advances? :thumbup:

Gazer
01-11-2006, 09:31 PM
Well here it is :) iam just half way in setting it up :rtfm: lmao

hacker999
01-11-2006, 10:04 PM
Well here it is :) iam just half way in setting it up :rtfm: lmao
fish tank almost looks bigger than the tv box :D

Gazer
01-11-2006, 10:53 PM
Heres one of it working lol

notanotherone
01-11-2006, 10:59 PM
Heres one of it working lol
i like the look of that its goes well in the room

hacker999
01-11-2006, 11:49 PM
i like the look of that its goes well in the room
gosh i can see ribs on that dog, dont you feed him gazer lmao

notanotherone
02-11-2006, 12:06 AM
blood and sand Gazer you must be 40 feet away from it and it still looks big

Diablo13
02-11-2006, 04:37 AM
blood and sand Gazer you must be 40 feet away from it and it still looks big

Funny you should say that, I was just thinking what a nice room, pitty you could'nt get a decent sized telly to set it off?:roflmao:

Devilfish
02-11-2006, 08:44 AM
I would recommend having a read over at avforums.

Everyone has their own opinion whether plasma is better than LCD or vice versa.

Personnally, I researched for weeks before I bought my plasma. I wanted a BIG tele and the price of a 50" LCD was through the roof. This biggest LCD I've seen is 42" (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. but again the higher you go, the more you compromise quality. All plasmas can suffer from burnin at the start of their life...you are advised to set your brightness levels and power levels to a lower setting while you 'break it in'! I have a 50" Pioneer plasma and haven't experienced any problems at all.

I thought plasmas were supposed to have better quality than LCD? With LCD you can't completely turn the crystal off...only make it a very dark grey so you won't get an absolute black colour on the screen. With plasma, the particles can be completely de-energised turning them fully off and giving you a true black.

Here's a few pictures of my setup.

Diablo13
02-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Hi Devilfish, thats a very neat setup. If its not a daft question, where are all the cables? I cant believe you ve sunk them all into the wall? :thumbup:

Devilfish
02-11-2006, 05:01 PM
Hi Devilfish, thats a very neat setup. If its not a daft question, where are all the cables? I cant believe you ve sunk them all into the wall? :thumbup:

Well this was part of my research! With Pioneer plasmas, you get a kinda control box for everything to plug into. I didn't want to install a couple of cables, wraggle them in the wall, then a few months down the line decide I want a new Blu-Ray player and can't connect it to my TV without removing an existing device or re-wraggle the wall again.

So...this was a very good option. Only 3 cables come from the control box to the tv...1 power and 2 for picture. All other scarts, component, hdmi, audio in/out, etc go in the back of the control box (2nd from bottom in pic). It's very very handy!

To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Only thing is...the tv only has 1 component input which I have linked up to the dreambox so the picture quality from the dvd player is not so good with regular scart. I'm thinking about buying a digital video processor or scaler to upscale the picture to HD quality. It has two component inputs as well as many others and one hdmi output to the tv. So I would have HD quality coming from the dreambox and dvd player. Looking at the Iscan HD+ at the moment. Haven't decided if I'm going to buy it yet lol!

notanotherone
03-11-2006, 06:11 AM
yep really nice set up devilfish would some of the things you want on a xmas wish list?anyway you can come and do mine when gazer gets tired of his and gives it to me lol you say.... the picture quality from the dvd player is not so good with regular scart. I'm thinking about buying a digital video processor or scaler to upscale the picture to HD quality. well mine is the same as i have my dreambox connected to and was wondering how to make it better thanks for the answer saves me having to ask in forum by the way the wee cute cards with pink bows?take it their not yours :roflmao:

Devilfish
03-11-2006, 05:39 PM
by the way the wee cute cards with pink bows?take it their not yours :roflmao:

And what if they were....you got something against being queer?

LMAO....only kiddin mate.... :kissass:

The girlfriends sister got married when I took the picture.

Gazer
05-11-2006, 12:41 PM
Well iv had this 50" plasma three days now and it is sh*t thats all i can say about it :( not happy at all.

Got sky+ going though it and its like watching a 1980 video watching footy o it last night with the mrs and it was like we were 100% p*ssed lmao we were not far off, the freeview that is built into the set was as bad plus iv just tryed a DVD on it and that was no better so i think its time to go back to currys and see about getting my money back.

iv got a 42" plasma and iv got to say that is great can watch anythink on that with no probs.
So the LG 50PC1DA 50" High Definition Digital Plasma as got the :thumbdown: from me

Dont know what yours is like Devilfish ???

DessertDog
05-11-2006, 03:40 PM
This is the one i just got for me by the PC really pleased with the picture quality and also got a free upscalling dvd player.
Currys - Shop for Flat Panel TV - Goodmans GTVL19W19HD 19" Widescreen High Definition LCD TV (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 2@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccckaddjfigkmgdcflgceggdhhmdgmh.0&page=Product&fm=10&sm=0&tm=0&sku=757038&category_oid=-30633)

Diablo13
05-11-2006, 09:13 PM
@ Gazer sorry you don't like your new set m8. Is it the problems I mentioned earlier about picture breakup etc.? l am starting to think its an LG problem that their so ****e? What is the make of the 1 you had no trouble with? Have to say I'm on limited finances so I thank you for being my guinee pig in this.. Looks like mine should go back as well but its a matter of trying to replace it for around the same price.

Gazer
06-11-2006, 12:25 AM
Well iv had this 50" plasma three days now and it is sh*t thats all i can say about it :( not happy at all.

Got sky+ going though it and its like watching a 1980 video watching footy o it last night with the mrs and it was like we were 100% p*ssed lmao we were not far off, the freeview that is built into the set was as bad plus iv just tryed a DVD on it and that was no better so i think its time to go back to currys and see about getting my money back.

iv got a 42" plasma and iv got to say that is great can watch anythink on that with no probs.
So the LG 50PC1DA 50" High Definition Digital Plasma as got the :thumbdown: from me



Well i think iv got to eat my words :thstealth:

iv spent 4 hours today playing with the settings....This was after i went down to currys and told them to get it taken back lmao

well first thing i found out today was that some of the freeview channels are not working 100% from the winter hill transmitter, this is were i get my signal from.

anyway what i did today was to paused my sky + and played with all the picture adjustments that is on it and i got to say there is alot, like PSM, CSM, XD and these take you into other adjustments :censored:

The end result it is good :trustme: i think that i got this baby setup right now, got the footy on BBC2 at the moment and you can see the players and the ball :thumbup2: just got to work on the sound side of things now.

well iv got two days to make my mind up before i let it go all keep it and its looking like the second one now :)

@Diablo13 iv was given LG phone No if i needed any help setting it up and was told by currys i could get it replaced if i was not 100% with it, before i went down the road of geting my money back

here is the No 08706070973 its worth a try.

Devilfish
06-11-2006, 01:16 AM
The best advice I can give you Gazer is...

If you're going to spend a few grand on a big plasma, surely you can splash out on a decent set of component video cables. The component cables I have are broadcast quality and were ?40 per metre, and they were well worth it. Have a look here...

Hi-Fi and Video Cables and Interconnects, from Mark Grant Cables (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. If they don't have the cables you want, send him an email and he'll make it up for you.

In my opinion, the cables are just as important as the tv. No point in having a big tv if you're going to use scart. You might as well take it back to the shop!

The main thing is....as long as you're happy with the pictire quality...the job's done right! You're the one that has to watch it and as long as you're happy, nothing else matters.

Of course, someone else will always think different, that's when you have to think about getting a scaler or digital video processor (Iscan HD+ from owl-video.co.uk) ;) Just something else to think about! ;)

Diablo13
06-11-2006, 02:23 AM
Great advice Devilfish. In my case its just affording everything. You see the Monster cables advertised and think bloody hell what a price, not realising what a difference it will make. I've got most of mine linked by scarts but I've also got componant leads (RGB) as well but although the telly has the sockets only the DVD recorder does. Not the most expensive leads either. I looked at the upscalers you showed me but their out of my price range at the moment, even on ebay. Oh well I suppose if you want to play with the big boys you'd better first be able to afford it.
Thanks for the advice though, at least I now know where to dream, LOL.

@ gazer. Thanks for the number, I will have a word with Currys first, as thats where I got mine from as well. I have done all the settings right think, but it might be worth trying an Argos booster first as I have a Replay box on NTHell, linked by scart, so maybe its just not good enough. I hope yours is sorted now, post and let me know please either way.

notanotherone
06-11-2006, 11:42 AM
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:wot more can i say gazer :roflmao:

Gazer
06-11-2006, 04:18 PM
The best advice I can give you Gazer is...

If you're going to spend a few grand on a big plasma, surely you can splash out on a decent set of component video cables. The component cables I have are broadcast quality and were ?40 per metre, and they were well worth it.

Cheers Devilfish, but that was the first thing i did ;)
I ended up buying the pure component cables and scart cables for ?100 :( from currys, i know i could of got them cheaper but i just wanted it up and running lol

benoneill
14-12-2006, 12:42 AM
I have one, v.nice