View Full Version : push fit or solder?

19-08-2006, 03:37 PM
Are pushfit fittings any good in the long term?

I trust a solid solder joint over a small rubber seal any day.
Rubber can perish. I wonder what will happen in 15 to 20 years time when
the seals start to break down.

Anyone got any thoughts on this?

19-08-2006, 05:20 PM
hi i use solder all the time speedfit always pull out of joints with heat
stay well clear

19-08-2006, 06:17 PM
my m8s a plumber and he now uses them all the time as his apprentice was doing a solder job behind a toilet when he set the room on fire so he now uses them all the time in conjuction with palstic pipeing

19-08-2006, 10:26 PM
good old solder yorkshire fittings for me.

as already stated whats going to happen 10-15 years time?


20-08-2006, 10:52 AM
15 to 20 years time the rubber will perish and the seals will break.
Rubber does not last forever

Going on what people have said I am thinking I should stick with solder!

20-08-2006, 11:11 AM
When i did my extension thames water told me that i could,nt use plastic drain fittings because they havent stood the test of time.
They said i could only use clay.

Safer then to stick with solder although these plastic push fits have been around for a fair while now.

Only other thing i would say is they look sh_t.

20-08-2006, 12:43 PM
mines dont have rubber fittings there plastic i take it your talking about the grey ones well mine is white and they dont have rubber like the grey ones ,and as for the pipeing all gas pipes mains pipes are made of hdpe (high density poly ethleleyne)yellow and water the same blue and high steam pipe is grey and made of the same material which will last longer than your house

02-09-2006, 02:57 AM
they have rubber o ring washers in side them

08-09-2006, 11:52 PM
i like the good old solder joints
but do use plastic when in awkward places


27-09-2006, 11:40 AM
speedfit is guarenteed 25 years so should be fine

23-10-2006, 03:32 AM
speed fit garanteed 25 years like double glazing i am already replacing speedfit on jobs for copper

26-10-2006, 10:58 PM
push and fit look tacky

not for the pros

26-10-2006, 11:16 PM
Solder anytime push fit are not very safe imo

05-11-2006, 10:57 PM
my apprentice his been using pushfit for years he never had any problem and plastic last for ever and it don't rust and it is empact resistance

20-11-2006, 08:56 PM
Flexipipe is king!

21-11-2006, 09:55 AM
Both systems work well so you can utilise both as I am about to redo my CH system using both, but the majority will be push-fit.

25-11-2006, 04:21 PM
Just had a speed fit seal break after 5 years - its unlikely a solder joint would perish this quickly!

Replaced with solder joint and now feel alot happier

07-12-2006, 10:25 AM
Speedfit is the best, but not as nice looking as copper. If its hidden go with speefit, anything on show or semi visiblie use copper

31-01-2007, 02:22 PM
hmm just fitted a shower and i used solder BUT i also fitted a electric shower nextdoor and it was with pushfit... hmm i dont like them much it dident feel right as you could still move the pipe on the joint (Elbow) and there was no real effort on installing them.. its all in and hidden so there is no big diffrence there (its out of site) but push are bulker... but maybe it's me once its done you shouldent be able to twist and move it about............

the best way i can put it

i feel more safe with solder BUT pushfit do work and tbh in 15-20 i'll have no idea what i would be doing but when using pusfit i noticed you could by replecment rubber ends (internal rings) incase you misplased had to remove a old pair and they were only a few pence and with how easy it was to install so if it did go in 15 years i'd just replace ;) and thats if they DO need replacing

i diden't use Speed fit i used Push fit similar idea just the only diffrence is you screw on the end

26-02-2007, 10:12 PM
hi there
just a quick answer to this question. yes solder may seem to be better but a few things have happened in the last few years. one.. hep2.0 etc have gotten a lot better and the grip fasteners and coiled inserts are rated for a minnimum of 25 years. 2) okay not a big point maybe but they are far more enviromentally friendly. 3) in the last 3 years the chinese etc have bought so much of the coppper in this world for there massive manufacturing of products that contain copper that the price has increased 10 fold. so copper will dissapear here within the next 10 years regardless of wether we want it or not. 4) plumbers of which i am one can save us and you a lot of money because it cuts our instalation time of say a full central heating system by 2 days. which saves the customer around ?300. ilove yorkshire fittings but to be honest they are on there way out.. sorry