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PaulGene
06-06-2012, 02:08 AM
Just got myself a rather lovely 42" 3d Panasonic and now I'm wondering where to find content. Do you think freeview will ever broadcast in 3d? ... in fact is it even capable of broadcasting in 3d?

DessertDog
06-06-2012, 07:14 AM
Im not sure about freeview but the best bet for now is 3D Bluray,s m8 i have watched a fair few and im impressed with my LG

Diablo13
06-06-2012, 10:28 PM
To be honest I don't think 3D will ever really catch on as a broadcast media, the only reason it has survived so far is because of Blu Ray 3D!
Look how long they have been flogging this poor dead horse, yet Sky are the only broadcaster with any 3D content, no one else is interested. Even the cinema has more bums on seats for 2D than 3D according to recent surveys.

There is now a Super High Definition format around which is 3840 x 2160 pixel resolution, twice that of today's hi def!
Samsung I think makes a telly capable of that,........If you have a spare ?6999 in your sock drawer!
Though Toshiba are now developing 3D screens without the need for glasses, though once again it is very price prohibitive technology so far.
I think people get bored with the novelty of 3D very quickly, especially because of the need for the glasses?
Some people it even makes feel nauseous and gives them headaches. Not exactly the kind of side effects you want for your "next big thing"!
I don't really know why tv manufacturers are still promoting 3D tellies so heavily, except to make as much money as possible to put into their Super Hi Def research?
Most people would by far prefer the 2D clarity of Super def screens anyway, so manufacturers should just get on with concentrating on that and leave the largely unwanted 3D format for a niche market?

jgillis
06-06-2012, 10:50 PM
I totally agree. This is an industry looking for the next big thing. 3d is a novelty once in a while thing. In the home it does not fit with the way people watch tv. I personally don't think it enhances the story at all.

The football on Sky 3d is about the only half decent reason for broadcast 3d.

3d capable tvs are useful for gaming though. Try star wars kinect in 3d

Diablo13
06-06-2012, 11:31 PM
"3d capable tvs are useful for gaming though. Try star wars kinect in 3d"

Yes I would agree with that jgillis, unfortunately for them though out of a huge home user market, only a relative few adopters are gamers, even today.
Before anyone says there are millions of gamers, it is still not enough to sustain the tv industry, when billions of people never play games!
Not everyone especially the older population, or strangely perhaps those younger who can really afford all the high tech, are too busy earning that money to have time to play games?
Simply relaxing is often what people really want at home and they don't need all the high tech to do that.
I have quite a lot of distractions at home for example, big tv, computer, laptop and games consoles, but sometimes its just great to sit comfortably and listen to the oldest home entertainment medium of all, the radio! :d:

Pejazzle
07-06-2012, 12:02 AM
I would actually like to see how 3D develops especially without glasses and the side effects, I'm sure they can find a way around it. Filming in 3D will undoubtedly get cheaper aswell. Perhaps not everything should be shot in 3D but football and sport in general along with movies would be very useful on a 3d TV.

Also I don't see any real need to go beyond 4k quality which is what I believe you are talking about Diablo? Our eyes can only see up to a certain extent which I believe is the quality that Apple have in their retina display hence the retina name?

mattmcg83
07-06-2012, 12:32 AM
I am currently contemplating getting a 3D tv however after reading the above may be holding off a little longer to see if it actually survives or is another beta max style flop.

Diablo13
07-06-2012, 01:18 AM
I am currently contemplating getting a 3D tv however after reading the above may be holding off a little longer to see if it actually survives or is another beta max style flop.

I didn't say it "wouldn't survive" mattmcg83 and it is unlikely to flop like Betamax, just that broadcasters don't seem to be in a hurry to adopt it as a broadcast medium!
The 4K format which Pejazzle rightly mentioned is probably the way forward for future tv's and broadcasters, but it is still a way off unless you have very deep pockets?
I would suggest that 3D on its own is not enough reason to get a new set now though, unless you really need one.
On the other hand if you are going for a new set anyway then it might well have 3D built in, so its a bonus if you like, to complement all the other new features they have these days like a better picture, usb recording facility and internet access?

I have been looking at getting a new bigger telly myself recently and I have been looking at the latest Samsung and LG sets with interest.
They are very nice with lots of extras my current telly doesn't have and of course it will have to be LED which will save on electricity.
3D is naturally included as well, but I don't buy a lot of Blu Ray disks so 3D is not my main reason for buying one.
Though it will be something else to play with and try my games on!

Rhodderz
07-06-2012, 01:26 AM
I dont think 3d will kick off in the films industry that well, but in the gaming industry it might as it is pretty cool and has a lot more uses.

notanotherone
07-06-2012, 07:23 PM
I dont think 3d will kick off in the films industry that well, but in the gaming industry it might as it is pretty cool and has a lot more uses.

think youll find more and more films will be made in 3d as is now the case they are also doing remixes of films in 3d
(dont ask me how they do it lol)3d tv for me i use it all the time you can turn some films you watch on say sky into 3d as long as you have a 3d tv even tho they arnt 3d i watch the golf in the 3d now that you ahve to watch ,you can see every contour ,every hill bump ,when you look at golf on normal tv and they describe the green as having undulations watch it on 3d then you know what they are talking about

tinkertiler
07-06-2012, 09:02 PM
You will find that it will fade from the cinema because of the cost of filming it in 3d and the distate from the directors to use it too!! The Dark Knight Rises is a prime example of this they were told to use 3d and he declined the 3d cameras turned up, they got locked in a container under guard and not used pmsl 3d will just fade like it did in the 80s and when the next gen of HD comes out which will cause problems in its own right because of the bandwidth needed to broadcast it. If you look at most of the broadcasts from Sly you will find they are not full hd they are mostly 720p

PaulGene
07-06-2012, 09:50 PM
Wowzers didn't expect so many replies!

So basically I'm stuck with blue-ray and sky 3d for now, sucks.

On the whole 3D issue i don't think 3d is just some fad, but it will take some time to find its feet. The problem is the glasses and the fact you cant broadcast 3D everywhere because only people with 3D TV's will be able to view the content. Eventually I'm sure every TV will come with 3D as standard (and an option to view 3D content as 2D), which will stop the worry about broadcasting in 3D, and we will have glasses free 3d which will make the world of difference.

Diablo13
07-06-2012, 11:42 PM
Really there is no need to actually broadcast in 3D, just so long as the converting abilities of sets from 2D to 3D continues to improve!
The same would apply to 4k because it would take a lot of streaming data, whereas a standard definition broadcast could be more easily upscaled at the receiving end, as happens now with decent AV amps!
That way while some film makers like to shoot in 3D, but others don't, there is the choice for them, depending on their budget and if they think it will benefit from 3D. :-?
As far as standard broadcast telly programs go, it is probably still too expensive to film most of their crap in 3D. There are some shows and events which would benefit, like some of the Royal stuff over this weekend and sports, but game shows, cooking programs, X factor type "entertainment shows" and Big Brother certainly wouldn't. :p
I really don't want no 3D "Ladyboys" in in my face either! :eek: lol
Lets face it some of them would be bad enough on the radio, never mind in 3D! :rolleyes:

The point is program makers don't need to spend the money, but the people who really want to watch in 3D do on their receivers. That gives everyone the best choices of what they want, without the license fee going up to 500 quid a year? :genius:

PaulGene
08-06-2012, 01:01 AM
I cant see 2D to 3D conversion ever being as good as the real thing, if only it could be.

markye
08-06-2012, 08:32 PM
i think the bbc are broadcasting the olympics in 3d on the freeview HD channel if you can get that. They did the same with Wimbledon last year and broadcast it in sbs.

spudgunuk
09-06-2012, 01:50 AM
The BBC also showed the strictly come dancing final in sbs 3d on their Freeview HD channel, so it is possible, although it wasn't very convincing. Not that I watched it of course...

Salem874
14-06-2012, 10:51 PM
Just got myself a rather lovely 42" 3d Panasonic and now I'm wondering where to find content. Do you think freeview will ever broadcast in 3d? ... in fact is it even capable of broadcasting in 3d?

The BBC does occasionally use BBC HD to broadcast 3D on Freeview. last summers Wimbledon finals where the first public BBC 3D broadcast.

There will be more 3D coming up this summer during the London 2012 Olympic Games.

Some key events will be simulcast in 3D Live on BBC HD, these are the Opening & Closing Ceremony & the men's 100m final. BBC HD will also have a nightly highlights show from the days Olympic events in 3D.

Unfortunately, with BBC HD scheduled to become BBC Two HD after the Olympics, i'm worried we may not get many more 3D broadcasts on Freeview HD after this summer

Diablo13
15-06-2012, 05:07 PM
Yes I'm looking forward to the closing ceremony! :rolleyes: ;)

Welcome to the forums Salem874. :thumbup2:

Spinifex
15-06-2012, 05:16 PM
Was going to add a point here 3d takes no more bandwidth than a HD transmission its like sending a black and white film or a colour or the old school 3d or polymorphic 3d its just what the video looks like thats all.

i remember babestation doing old red/blue (sd quality) 3d once about a year ago and believe you me ive never seen boobies come out of the screen like that b4 it put me off for life lol jk jk

haardly
16-06-2012, 11:37 PM
3D Babestation, now you're talking!

Mike87
16-06-2012, 11:40 PM
sounds immense, cant wait to see some of that. A tv would probably help.

AllyBally
01-07-2012, 03:03 AM
Personally, I have to say I agree with the contributor's who think it's a fad/gimmick. My sister and her hubby have got a complete 3D setup. ( ... TV, Blu-ray, Sky box.) I've watched a few 3D things at their house and to be quite honest after while it gives me a sore head! I can remember watching a golf tournament which was being broadcast in 3D and thinking how strange & unrealistic it all was. The golfers, the crowd, the trees, etc. all looked like cardboard cutouts. It very much reminded me of an old fashioned kiddie's toy theatre where the figures & props were cut out of card, glued to lolly sticks and then moved in and out from the wings!

frankbutcher29
08-07-2012, 12:25 AM
The BBC have been advertising the Mens Wimbledon final as being broadcast in 3D on the BBC HD channel.

__555__
08-07-2012, 12:46 AM
3D not for me....

I would be worried about getting hit by a stray ball watching tennis, or shot if watching a war film. After all, one woman is claiming to have gotten pregnant by watching 3D porn!!!

Read this for a laugh.... Only in America could anyone be so stupid...

http://news.techeye.net/internet/woman-says-3d-porno-made-her-pregnant

pmslpmslpmsl

freddy
08-07-2012, 01:12 AM
What if you've only one good eye?

At least with only one good ear you can still hear stereo, unless you're wearing headphones!

alanjg007
08-07-2012, 01:32 AM
from 555 link posted above....one good eye is probably all you need lol

worktop
08-07-2012, 01:13 PM
i hope the prices of 3d television come down in price as im not exactly rich! i not long bought an lcd tv and that was expensive

fump
31-08-2012, 02:43 AM
It's a gimmick but it's a fun gimmick! Also I'm fairly sure Ridley Scott and Scorcese shot in 3d by choice. I can't imagine any producer having the guts to try and make them! So not all directors are against it. Also James Cameron is probably the most sure bet for returns in the industry and he's been the biggest advocate of it for nearly 20 years.

rob619
16-09-2012, 01:06 AM
3D is here to stay. I think its good. Adds a whole new image. It depends what 3D is talked about, there is the silly stuff that looks as if its coming out of screen. Directors ruins movies by adding such chessy things. However the great 3D image is the one in which it looks as if you can jump within the screen and see many different layers.

Can notice this alot in 3D gaming :)

paulmc1888
22-12-2012, 08:15 PM
i thik the 3d gives you a sore head after a while and not as good as hd tv imo

dabsy123
24-12-2013, 01:50 AM
i thik the 3d gives you a sore head after a while and not as good as hd tv imo

i completely agree can make u feel dizzy. Just out of interest does freeview have enough bandwidth for a 3d channel?

davie s
29-12-2013, 02:59 PM
Just read this thread after buying a Panasonic 60", bluray player and soundbar.

I'm loving it so far but am wondering if there is still a chance of UK FTA 3D now that the Olymipics have gone? Anybody know?

Is there any FTA 3D on other satelites? I use Sky most of the time but I've also got a HD freesat on a separate dish that I can swing around.

BTW. Tesco has a great deal on the Panasonic SC-HTB170 Soundbar; down from ?199 to ?99, ordered on-line.
120w output.
Bluetooth, 2HDMI (inc ARC) and Opt inputs.

dabsy123
03-01-2014, 02:52 AM
Im not sure about freeview but the best bet for now is 3D Bluray,s m8 i have watched a fair few and im impressed with my LG

lg make great tvs

dabsy123
03-01-2014, 02:53 AM
I would actually like to see how 3D develops especially without glasses and the side effects, I'm sure they can find a way around it. Filming in 3D will undoubtedly get cheaper aswell. Perhaps not everything should be shot in 3D but football and sport in general along with movies would be very useful on a 3d TV.

Also I don't see any real need to go beyond 4k quality which is what I believe you are talking about Diablo? Our eyes can only see up to a certain extent which I believe is the quality that Apple have in their retina display hence the retina name?
totally agree