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lmfao
05-06-2012, 12:34 AM
Does anyone know what an ideal first car would be?

swan2012
05-06-2012, 12:52 AM
Peugeot 306 diesel cheap easy to drive and go for miles :)

pinto
05-06-2012, 01:17 AM
Does anyone know what an ideal first car would be?
I would go for a ford.

swan2012
05-06-2012, 01:19 AM
Fix Or Repair Daily

useme
05-06-2012, 01:33 AM
I wouldn't go French

lmfao
05-06-2012, 10:49 AM
Thanks it was actually my first idea. It would just be for travelling to work and general stuff until i can be bothered to drive around the country :D

frink
05-06-2012, 11:26 AM
306 turbo diesel has plenty of poke for your money (bought one for my son's first car) but it's an aging version of a car that wasn't that reliable to start with. I'd bite the bullet and look for a low mileage supermini, will probably give you better running costs (not to mention insurance) as diesels are only really good for distance work. Just bought a Panda for my daughter, you'd be amazed how little they cost for the plate, but of course normally driven by blue rinse or trilby wearers . No Kudos i'm afraid!
nb check the insurance quotes carefully. cars normally bought by new/young drivers get loaded and the one's they don't buy can be a relative bargain. my son actually paid less in insurance for a 1.6 Astra than his previous 1.2 corsa! (it was some time ago, not recommending you buy one , just don't instantly dismiss the "wrong" car).

thelostone
05-06-2012, 01:09 PM
Small and Japanese

faz3270
05-06-2012, 11:11 PM
For new young drivers, you need to get the smallest engine possible, i have a3drcorsa b 1.0l engine, and also 106 . 1.0 is a good car.

Diablo13
05-06-2012, 11:30 PM
As a first car, it doesn't really matter what make, model, colour or equipment it has, all that really matters is if you can afford to insure it!
Seeing as your cheapest quotes are going to be based on engine size and performance, if you can get cheapish insurance on it then it will already have low performance, and therefore usually economy in driving.

So the true answer to your question is really; Any car you can afford to insure and run is the best first car!
You can move up to something better once you have your first years, biggest savings, no claims discount under your belt!
I hope that helps in a practical way?

Diablo13
05-06-2012, 11:40 PM
Your first car should be one you can afford. If you can't afford it then you obviously don't need it!

I thought I just said that, in the post above yours? :confused:
What are you a :hello_bird: lol

P.S. I think I need a new house with a swimming pool, that doesn't mean I can afford one! ;)

Magnu420
05-06-2012, 11:50 PM
it wont matter what type of car you get its all down to the postcode where you live
will depend on the insurance whether it low or high

my first car i got was a rover mini cooper bored out to a 1475cc
it was classed as group 7 on insurance.only payed about ?180 fully comp
it cost a tenner to fill the tank up aswell
back in 1995

Diablo13
06-06-2012, 12:10 AM
1995 ffs Mags, the prices have changed just a bit since then lol
I wonder what it would cost you to insure that same performance Mini now?
Go on get a quote and shock yourself, then post it and shock us, just so we can see how times have changed, since Gary Glitter was on Top of the Pops! pmsl

Magnu420
06-06-2012, 12:34 AM
1995 ffs Mags, the prices have changed just a bit since then lol
I wonder what it would cost you to insure that same performance Mini now?
Go on get a quote and shock yourself, then post it and shock us, just so we can see how times have changed, since Gary Glitter was on Top of the Pops! pmsl



ok i got a quote just having 1275cc mini cooper,with protested no claims,?150 excess,fully comp
held a full license for 23years,no points etc (they were spent about 5 years ago ....speeding lol)
i used the meercat one,the cheepest quote i got was

asda ?414.72
the dearest which is always the same company for me is
more than year after year they always the last and dearest one for me and they quoted me ?1,285.61 :eek:

jeffy
06-06-2012, 12:38 AM
i know it does seem a bit gay but a ford ka is very cheap to run insure and fix if not something diesel that will run forever and wont breakdown a little vw polo would also be a good car to get

Diablo13
06-06-2012, 12:48 AM
Oh so cheaper than I thought it would be then! lol
Looking at that price difference for the same person though, you, with all your experience and no claims yet it is still 3 times more expensive now than it was. That's without even factoring in the re-bore! :sh:
More Than should be able to afford the real Morgan Freeman for their adverts charging prices like that! :eek:
What a huge gap between cheapest and dearest though, no one can ever tell me that should be legal, there's no price control at all in insurance, which frankly stinks. :mad:
No wonder we still see so many youngsters with skateboards around! ;)

Magnu420
06-06-2012, 12:56 AM
i did one a couple of months back one at my addy and another
at me cousins addy up in jockland
the car i got quoted was a ferrarri testrorosa
forgot who it was but the cheepest at my addy was ?1,875
the cheepest at my cousins addy was ?575 both fully comp
quoted my punto it was about ?580 at my addy and ?128 at my cousins

jeffy
06-06-2012, 01:02 AM
i find it funny
i am in the same boat but with vans as i am a plasterer and it doesnt matter how many years you have been driving but if you have a fair few no claims then you have cheap insurance!
i understand if you have no claims you should get your insurance cheeper than the rest but the group of drives with no no claims but still havent done anything wrong (like be a named driver on a family or companys insurance) i think is wrong to still charge them full wack.
they still get there money from all the bad drivers around here :D
Rant Over ill go cool down now lol

Erol Huseyin
06-06-2012, 01:03 AM
Paid 1.5k for a Fiat Punto and the damn thing fell apart lol.. I think the next car I'll get will be something like a Nissan, or anything Jap. Always fancied a Honda Civic.

Diablo13
06-06-2012, 01:19 AM
I always liked the new styled Honda Civics, but they are expensive.
The older more boxy type Civics on the other hand, while not looking as stylish, are supposed to be very reliable, quiet workhorses.
I was looking at the new Civics before I got my Peugeot 308 a few months ago, but I saw mine at a great price, in shiny black with its own quite futuristic headlamp styling and got that instead.
I have to say I don't regret that decision as I love driving the Peugeot, it feels a really nice comfortable and quite nippy car. :D

richard77138
06-06-2012, 11:46 PM
Avoid french and german small cars like the plague the electrics are poor and german engineering is definately not what vw's ads would have you believe

Diablo13
07-06-2012, 12:03 AM
I have to completely disagree with that sweeping statement richard77138!
ALL manufacturers make good and bad models of cars, it has nothing to do with which country the parent company is in, as they may not even be manufactured there, like Nissan being made in Britain, though I would make exceptions for India and Pakistan! :eek: lol
There are and have been some nasty problems with Japanese cars as well,..............Toyota for instance had major problems not so long back requiring a massive recall of many of their cars!
I am not a huge fan of the French, but the Renault's and Peugeot's I have had have all been very good cars, as have the Opel's and Mercedes I have had in the past as well!

mattmcg83
07-06-2012, 12:27 AM
Something reliable with upto a 1.4 engine in it to keep insurance costs down possibly a fiesta, clio or similar ?

danyaal
07-06-2012, 12:33 AM
ford fiestaaaa

markye
08-06-2012, 08:21 PM
I'd go with the Toyota Yaris, they are absolutely bomb proof

19mpb79
11-06-2012, 01:06 AM
Never a fan of French cars, but..... first car was a 106 independance 1.0, owned from new on a Y plate, and after 7 years motoring it cost me 4 MOT's (all passed), and a new rear section exhaust, I did only get ?700 on trade in, but changed my opinion of French cars.

Diablo13
11-06-2012, 01:13 AM
Welcome to Wod 19mpb79 nice to read your opinions here. :hi:

As I said before there are good and bad cars from every manufacturer, but the 4 French cars I have had never let me down either and they do seem to be quite nippy on acceleration in general.

Strangely enough being English, I would never want to buy a British car again, not that you really can now, but they always seemed so dull inside and under specked compared to foreign cars?
I have only had 4 Brit cars, 2 Vauxhall's, a very old Viva A and a Cavalier 1600 some years ago.
The Viva was a shed and my first ever car, while the Cavalier was alright but a bit of a dull whale of a car.
I had a Hillman Avenger 1275 when I was young, I put spotlights, high level brake lights, a boot rack and furry seat covers on it. Had it re bored to 1300 and it really shifted for its power. Now that car I really liked! :sad:
The other Brit car I had was a Morris Marina 1800, 20 odd years ago, but the least said about that bloody thing the better! :puke1:
Suffice it to say I spent much more time walking than driving it lol


But I'm rambling, your not going to get a car like them.................unless its off the "Antiques Roadshow"! :hyst:

pande_monium
11-06-2012, 02:14 AM
ALL manufacturers make good and bad models of cars, it has nothing to do with which country the parent company is in, as they may not even be manufactured there, like Nissan being made in Britain,
:thumbup:


though I would make exceptions for India and Pakistan! :eek: lol
:kungfu:
Thought better of you to make that call mate... you couldn't be farther from the truth (about India particularly).

And you're comparing apples and pears here. India's MUCH ahead in technology and quality than you could imagine. Not sure if you know this, but a majority of Japanese cars (Honda, Suzuki, Nissan) as well as a few other makes (Peugeot inclusive) have their manufacturing units in India and export all over the world.

I'd just like to say that I don't agree with your opinion. Reason - baseless and inaccurate. Oh, India's got loads of problems... but, this isn't one of them.

I apologise for hijacking the thread and I'll end my thoughts here.

Diablo13
11-06-2012, 02:56 AM
Apologies pande if I somehow upset you, I was in no way meaning to sound racist!
I based that comment, which was meant to be purely tongue in cheek, on some strange little 2 cylinder cars I saw on the telly (maybe Top Gear), which were very cheap and were made almost entirely out of plastic or tinfoil or something!
Going along with the tone of the report, these cars were the Indian versions of the East German Trabbis and a world away from modern cars.
Once again any offense caused was entirely unintentional m8. :sorry:

zigga
11-06-2012, 03:31 AM
Depends on your budget really.. A nice car in my opinion would be a Honda Civic Type R :) Nice and sexy hahha

pande_monium
11-06-2012, 11:08 AM
Apologies pande if I somehow upset you, I was in no way meaning to sound racist!
I based that comment, which was meant to be purely tongue in cheek, on some strange little 2 cylinder cars I saw on the telly (maybe Top Gear), which were very cheap and were made almost entirely out of plastic or tinfoil or something!
Going along with the tone of the report, these cars were the Indian versions of the East German Trabbis and a world away from modern cars.
Once again any offense caused was entirely unintentional m8. :sorry:

I think I know the one you mean mate... its the Tata Nano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano)... its supposed to be the cheapest car in the world - Rs.1,00,000 (approximately ?1200 or $1800). And the opinion about the car being quite bare and basic is absolutely correct. But, isn't that the objective? Nobody expected an Enzo Ferrari for ?1200? Heck... we can't even expect to buy a decent 10 year old Golf for that money today, can we?

You'd expect to pay about Rs.16,00,000-Rs.20,00,000 for a brand new Golf in India - 16-20 times the price of a Nano. Seriously... how does one compare these two? The objective was for the common village man to own a car at a VERY affordable price and get him/her out of the 45 degree celcius roasting sun!

Top Gear is a great series. But, I do hope you don't take Jeremy Clarkson's opinions seriously! They're shockingly funny & opinionated... but sadly, never factual.

Attempting to bring the thread back to its original topic... my opinion (for what its worth!) is that the first car should be based purely around insurance. The first few years of your license are going to be insanely expensive (thanks to the rip-off insurance companies). Not everybody can live in the best post-codes... this is out of our control - one cannot choose a house based purely on insurance post code lottery!

As a rule-of-thumb, I think that if you limit yourself to a 1.0 or 1.2 litre mini or super-mini, then you stand to get the lower insurance quotes in general. A Nissan Micra/Almeira , Vauxhall Corsa/Astra, Daewoo Matiz, Suzuki Alto, Peugeot 106/206/306 or the Fiat Punto are good choices. The Japanese models tend to last forever, quite frugal and low maintenance. The British makes are cheap & easy to maintain but may not be as frugal. French/Italian tend to offer great options, but their electricals are problematic. With each make you'll find some pros and cons. Choose the compromise that suits you best. There's no good or bad for the first car... just what suits you best.

All the very best regardless of what you choose - Happy motoring... hopefully safe motoring!

jheritage
11-06-2012, 02:37 PM
A small VW, like a polo or a fox, good quality motors, cheap to run (as if that actually applies to any car these days) and insure, reliable and VW holds its money for resale purposes.

Reddevil
11-06-2012, 02:50 PM
Funnily enough i just got a quote for a car im going to view tomorrow, no good as your 1st car tho, my quote was ?479 fully comp wont say what it is tho, may not get it. :D

Magnu420
11-06-2012, 03:02 PM
Funnily enough i just got a quote for a car im going to view tomorrow, no good as your 1st car tho, my quote was ?479 fully comp wont say what it is tho, may not get it. :D


one of these http://dayerses.com/data_images/posts/reliant-robin/reliant-robin-09.jpg

Reddevil
11-06-2012, 03:10 PM
one of these http://dayerses.com/data_images/posts/reliant-robin/reliant-robin-09.jpg

Drat you got me pmsl

benje302
12-06-2012, 12:14 AM
I own a Ford Ka as a second car and they are great little cars.

A lot of people dont like their shape but they are brilliant at holding the road, cheap to insure and dont cost the earth to run.

I have owned mine for 3 years now (52 plate) and have added 40,000 miles to it (done over 95000).

They do have their common faults (rust, suspension etc) but if you look after them you can keep the costs down.

I will certainly buy another one when the current one needs replacing and I will go for a mark 1 again as they go to an 08 plate.

karnage0012000
12-06-2012, 12:48 AM
anything under a grand personally i would get a corsa or a escort (one of the old skool ones) just gets u from A to B mate!

guy
12-06-2012, 11:05 AM
Now don't laugh, but my first car was a little Rover 214 (basically a Rover 25).

I could not recommend this highly enough, not only was it dirt cheap, because nobody wants one, but it also came with lots of toys which I could never have afforded on a 'better' car. It was also, without doubt, the cheapest car to insure I could find. Don't get me wrong, insuring any car isn't cheap at 17, but I got so many quotes for so many cars, and all in all, this was comfortably cheapest. Never went wrong, great little 1.4 engine, and don't worry, there are still lots of parts about!

Just depends whether you can put up with the idea of owning a Rover!

hairymel
30-06-2012, 01:50 AM
daewoo matiz is cheap to insure but watch out for head gasket failure!

hairymel
30-06-2012, 01:51 AM
older > 10/15 year old cars an be cheap if you can find someone to insure them on a classic policy also

itnotme
03-07-2012, 01:22 AM
Consider a kitcar assuming it is well put together it should be great. And cheap to insure (said in a whispering voice)

qwerty30
06-07-2012, 02:26 AM
Small ford, economical, cheap to insure

daniel9807
06-07-2012, 11:30 PM
My first car was a 1998 2.0l Nissan primera GT. the insurance was a bit high so ibought it for my dad but was a named driver payed ?1800 for insurance which was cheaper than 1.2l corsa. i loved that car. it had 163bhp, 0-60 in around 8 seconds. and did 32 mpg (would touch 40 on motorway)but now im i drive 2.2 sri vectra which is a pile of poop compared to theprimera gt

rugbynut
06-07-2012, 11:39 PM
Depends on how much you have to spend?

BraveHeart
06-07-2012, 11:58 PM
rolls royce.

daniel9807
07-07-2012, 12:04 AM
rolls royce.

shud be quite cheap to run. an old rolls will do 7 mpg. a gallon of petrol will cost around a fiver. to travel 100 miles a week will only cost about ?75 if ya lucky. tax about 240 for year if older than 12 years.

look for a skoda fabia. was the cheapest for me

cactikid
08-07-2012, 06:13 PM
old rolls royce in breakers yard minus the chrome front which is locked away under lock and key lol.