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desmondo
06-07-2006, 07:37 PM
Hi guys im totally new to this section, if i ask anything stupid just let me know but please try and be patient. I just bought my programmer today and i want to program my rom cards(originals). I dont know as yet if they are rom 7,10 or 11, i have three pace boxes and two explorer boxes. I just got the reader/writer out of the box and have installed nagraedit 4.1 and the software for the programmer firmware v7.1. Can anyone help me in the following area's.

1. Firstly can the duolabs dynamite unloop as it state's on the duolabs site and do i need an RS232 cable cable to read or unlock the card's.

2. Is there any way i can obtain the box key and ird without unlooping so i can get started right away?

Thanks in advance :please:

jumpinjo
06-07-2006, 07:57 PM
2. Is there any way i can obtain the box key and ird without unlooping so i can get started right away?
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only if cards are open and you can read :)

desmondo
06-07-2006, 08:31 PM
Thanks for your reply, i dont have the right serial cable with me, although i will have it tommorrow. I ran the cards through the firmware and it gave me an atr number when i put them in as titanium or other type cards and asked did i want to write or erase could it be possbile then that these are not locked cards. I cant check with nagraedit as there is no serial but would it be worth my while trying to write with another image using the firmware as if it were a titanium or other card?

jumpinjo
06-07-2006, 08:44 PM
would it be worth my while trying to write with another image using the firmware as if it were a titanium or other card?

NO m8 only way you gonna read is with correct soft and equipment for romcards...you may possibly feck cards if you feck about too much with them

if stb's been on stream recently cards are gonna be deffo locked to latest revision so you wont be able to read anyway to get info required.

desmondo
06-07-2006, 09:11 PM
Thanks m8, i'll just wait until i get the rs232 the morra and then i can really pickle my head. Are they difficult to unlock when i have the right gear hope its not gonna take me all day.

jumpinjo
06-07-2006, 09:41 PM
latest rev rom11 BOD is very easy to open...rom10 A86 could be a prob.

charlie senator
06-07-2006, 10:38 PM
what sort of pace boxes are they ? if 4001 you can read the bk with a led simm about %u00A320 or 4010 jtag about the same price then just buy some open moscs or atmegas from fleabay other wise im sure you need an unlooper to read your orig cards

charlie senator
06-07-2006, 10:43 PM
should read (about £20)

desmondo
07-07-2006, 12:08 PM
The boxes i have firstly are 3 pace 1010t, 2000t & 4000t & 2 explorers 4200. I also have the following cards (all locked & not reading in nagraedit 4.1 ). 3 rom11 bod's & 2 rom10 a82,a86. I have my RS232 now but i do not have an unlooper, the reason for this is at unapit.com it state's the duolabs dynamite can unloop, which i am now learning is not the case, is there any other way to at least get 1 or 2 of these cards up and running until i get an unlooper. Cheers in advance.

jumpinjo
07-07-2006, 01:03 PM
The boxes i have firstly are 3 pace 1010t, 2000t & 4000t & 2 explorers 4200. I also have the following cards (all locked & not reading in nagraedit 4.1 ). 3 rom11 bod's & 2 rom10 a82,a86. I have my RS232 now but i do not have an unlooper, the reason for this is at unapit.com it state's the duolabs dynamite can unloop, which i am now learning is not the case, is there any other way to at least get 1 or 2 of these cards up and running until i get an unlooper. Cheers in advance.

No m8 you gonna need unlooper for your 3xrom11 bod and 2xrom10 a82 very easy to open

do not put any stb on stream with the rom10 a82 or they will update to a86

the 2000t and sa4200 are gonna be difficult to do unless you can open paired card and lets hope none contain false bk when opened.

desmondo
07-07-2006, 01:59 PM
Cheers for the advice, how do i go about doing the a82 bearing in mind its my first card. Cheers

Desmondo