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PaphosAL
10-08-2008, 11:59 AM
I think there are more than a few inaccuracies in the Set My Location database. It's time to grab the bull by the horns and get this data 100% accurate- then share this info with ALL the image modders/creators, for everybodie's benefit.

Whatever image you are running, it will almost certainly have the Set My Location (SML) feature somewhere in the menu structure- unless it's a really old image.

Use Tuxbox Commander or FTP into your dbox and check the data for your Location, please. If you know for a fact it is wrong, then please report this here- along with the corrected info.

Where do I find this info?

In the majority of recent images, it's a standalone file:


/var/tuxbox/config/setmylocation.conf

Other images (like mine, LOL) incorporate the SML data into the Blue button 'System' menu itself, so you'll find it in:


/var/tuxbox/config/shellexec.conf

The listings are pretty much the same, and comprise Town - NetID - Frequency - SymRate

I believe the majority of the errors are wrong SymRates: ie 6887 instead of 6952 for example. But we'll only know for certain if YOU tell us! Thanks for helping!

Cheers- AL :driver:

fatman
11-08-2008, 10:18 AM
looks like the usual ..... leachers are willing to take of your hard work Al, but not give back to even the simplest resuest. why do you bother, no wonder there is a shortage of image modders

come on people Al has put a **** load of work into the dbox scene for you, the least you can do is respond to a simple request to help him help you

fatman
11-08-2008, 10:19 AM
Teesside
571000
00010
6887

I found this and I dont even use a dbox

nj2006
11-08-2008, 10:35 AM
Swansea
00007
755000
6887

does this meen im not a leecher now. ;)

fatman
11-08-2008, 10:44 AM
does this meen im not a leecher now. ;)

Leecher status removed

PaphosAL
11-08-2008, 11:18 AM
Both the Teeside and Swansea data mirror what I already have in \/+ 2.1, fellas. Are you confirming these as correct, or telling me they're wrong?

I did a quick scan through the SML list and made a few edits prior to release, based on what SS had said previously about York and another guy about Bournemouth.

Both these were NetID 4xxxxx and both were incorrectly tagged as 6887, when they are really 6952

I found loadsa similar examples beginning 4 (mainly Lancs) all listed as 6887, so took a gamble and changed them all to 6952. Fingers crossed- but no reports of Fast Scan NOT working yet...

The Irish ones don't look right, either. Example:


ACTION=Mansfield 2 NTL,smlops 00008 739000 6887
ACTION=Meath xxxxx 258000 xxxx
ACTION=Newbury Berks NTL,smlops 00013 803000 6887


What's that supposed to mean, ffs? More in there like that for the Emerald Isle, too. Come on you Paddies- let's be hearing from you!!

Cheers- AL

wullboy
11-08-2008, 12:32 PM
Was in the setmylocation. conf and got this 40981 619000 6952 { falkirk } is this what your looking for Paphosal, not sure myself m8, if not sorry

nj2006
11-08-2008, 12:47 PM
sorry al m8 i think me and fatman are confirming they are correct.

DavC
11-08-2008, 01:01 PM
i'd like to help out here, but not sure what your asking us to do...

i'd imagine by just looking at that line in the .conf file we're just going to be telling you what the settings are in the database... not weather or not they are actually correct? (i presume the settings in there came from the 'set my location' database?)

so how do we find out what the correct settings really are for our area?

nj2006
11-08-2008, 03:40 PM
i'd like to help out here, but not sure what your asking us to do...
i'd imagine by just looking at that line in the .conf file we're just going to be telling you what the settings are in the database... not weather or not they are actually correct? (i presume the settings in there came from the 'set my location' database?)
so how do we find out what the correct settings really are for our area?

if you have a subbed cable box enter the engerneer menu and take out the
network id
frequancy
symbolrate

and also tell us the town your in. ;)

cant remember how to get in engerneer mode sure its hold up and down together wile powering on

PaphosAL
11-08-2008, 04:59 PM
That's about right, NJ- wait till the lcd says boot keep the up/dn buttons held in until it says diag and let go!

On many tellies, you'll now have to press the AV button, before the blue Eng Menu appears on screen. Then you use the L/R arrow buttons to page Up / Down to find the info you want.

SML Database:

Just to clarify- I know what the listings are, it's just that I suspect some of them are inaccurate, which is why Fast Scan doesn't work for many peeps. Here's a dozen examples:


Charlton / Plumstead: 41047 00000 6952
Dublin: xxxxx 2910000 xxxx
Manchester 1: 41040 00000 6952
Meath: xxxxx 258000 xxxx
London NW: 00000 000000 6887
Sedgely: 40773 000000 6952
S. Herts: 41051 000000 6952
Surrey C&W: 41045 000000 6952
Uddington TW: 40984 xxxxxx 6952
Westminster ntl: 00000 000000 6887
Wessex C&W: 41043 000000 6952
Wood Green TW: 00000 000000 6952

Now, all those xxxxxx's and all those 000000's - HOW is Fast Scan supposed to make sense of these?

So for starters- if you live in one of these localities and KNOW what your correct settings are, then this is the info being requested, to be shared out to all the image creators, for the greater good of all.

Thanks- AL

renwich
11-08-2008, 07:10 PM
When I first created the Setscan (now SetMyLocation)menu for the then current commando image to compliment Cydines great coding, I asked in all the forums I was an active member of, for a little Input from the potential benifactors of this easy to use system, I got a less than poor response then, therefore when the image was released I had to just put in a lot of zeros and spurious data for those areas that were not available in list published by Gav and Cydine.

It seems that since then that even though this idea has taken off and been converted into firstly a plugin and then coded into neutrino that still no-one can be arsed to provide the data to allow image creators to update these missing areas, but are quite happy to bitch and moan that the fast scan is at fault ans dosn't perform to expectation.

this is why Hunter Myself and other modders cant be arsed to continue to help the community by creating better images, because they wont help us help them

Sorry Al I dont expect you will get the Data to completely update this list,

PaphosAL
11-08-2008, 07:58 PM
I see where you're coming from, Renny- but I'm a born optimist, and, who knows? That 'dirty Dozen' list above might just galvanize some input from members who actually live in those places, LOL!

We'll see, m8... Cheers- AL

lincsat
11-08-2008, 09:33 PM
I tried updating the SML data used in most images last year, again got very little help, but did manage to update a few.

Have a look at my data file Al, you may get a few more from there - I can only confirm that Lincoln is 100% accurate though.

maxqa99
11-08-2008, 10:14 PM
Al,

I can confirm that the data you have in your image for Oxford 2 is correct. ( ps. i have not found an image where this is incorrect !)

cheers

Freddy

DavC
12-08-2008, 07:44 AM
ahh... not got one of them! lol

not to worry.

lincsat
13-08-2008, 11:58 PM
As some of you will have seen, There's confirmation on another forum of the Parameters for Dublin NTL.

NetID 42753; Frequency 291000; Symbol rate 6887.
363000 shares that Net ID but I have never seen it used for true cable in Dublin. However I stand to be corrected on this.

PaphosAL
14-08-2008, 09:54 AM
Also, my 'guess' that all the NetIDs starting 4xxxx are really SymRate 6952 is looking good, as confirmation is in from Bolton that this is correct. I found loads of these were previously listed as 6887 - and changed them all before 2.1 release.

This theory was based on previous feedback from York and Bournemouth, both 4xxxx and both listed as 6887, when they are really 6952.

Cheers- AL

fatman
17-08-2008, 09:27 PM
found this on the famous toolbar site , may be of help to you Al




Carleboy's Area Cods List produced for and on behalf of ********.cc.

Location Co Net Id Freq Sym Rate

7 Kings ex c&w 41050 666.750 6.952
ABBEYDALE (GLOUCESTER) TW 40971 651.000
ACTON NTL EX C&W 41047 666.750 6.887
Acton NTL 41050 666.750 6.887
Aldeershot NTL 00003 755.000 6.887
ASHTON-U-LYNE NTL EX C&W 41066 666.750 6.952
Ashford Ex C&W 41052 666.750 6.887
AYLESBURY NTL EX C&W 41051 666.750 6.887
BARKING NTL EX C&W 41050 666.750 6.887
BARNSLEY TW 40926 539.000 6.952
Basildon Laindon TW 40975 411.000 6.952
Batley NTL 00001 755.000 6.887
Bath TW 40970 651.000 6.952
Barnes TW 40979 531.000
Basingstoke NTL 00013 803.000 6.887
Batley NTL 00001 755.000 6.887
Bedford NTL 00005 755.000 6.887
Belfast (Ireland) NTL 00021 755.000 6.887
Bexley Heath NTL 41050 666.750 6.887
Biggin Hill NTL 41041 666.750 6.952
Bigglesworth-Beds NTL 00005 755.000 6.887
Birmingham TW/C&W 41011 643.000 6.952
Bermingham TDN 41015 499.000 6.952
Bermingham TND Trial 41022 499.000 6.952
Bermingham Trial BM01 40993 643.000 6.952
Bermingham Trial BM01 41008 643.000 6.952
Blackburn NTL 41048 666.750 6.952
Bolton NTL EX C&W 41060 666.750 6.887
Bournemouth Ex C&W 41043 666.750 6.887
Bradford W.Yorks TW 40961 539.000 6.952
BRIDGEND NTL 00004 755.000
Brighton NTL 41044 666.750 6.952
Bristol TW 40970 651.000 6.952
Bromley NTL/ex C&W 41041 666.750 6.887
BURNLEY LANCS NTL EX C&W 41048 666.750 6.887
Bury TW 41060 666.750 6.952
Canvey Island TW 40976 411.000
Cambridge NTL 00009 755.000 6.887
CAMDEN TW 40985 515.000 6.952
Cardiff NTL 00004 755.000 6.887
Carlisle OM 42650 322.000 6.887
Cheltenham Glos 1 TW 40971 433.000 6.952
Cheltenham Glos 2 TW 40971 651.000 6.952
Chelmsford TW 40977 411.000
Cheam TW 40979 531.000
Chesham Bucks Ex C&W 41051 666.750 6.887
Cheshunt NTL 00005 666.750
Chorly Lancs TW 41018 411.000 6.952
Corringham TW 40978 411.000 6.952
Chingford London Ex C&W 41050 666.750
CHORLEY TW 41018 531.000
Colliers Wood TW 40979 531.000
Coventry NTL 00019 811.000 6.887
CRAWLEY TW 41020 411.000 6.952
CROYDON TW 40979 531.000 6.952
Croxly Green EX C&W 41051 666.750 6.952
Dagenham Ex C&W 41050 666.750 6.952
Derby EX C&W 41056 666.750 6.952
Dewsbury NTL 00001 755.000 6.887
Dudley TW 40973 131.000
Dunstable 1 NTL 00005 755.000 6.887
Dunstable 2 NTL 00005 643.000 6.887
Durby 1 Ex C&W 41046 666.750 6.887
Durby 2 Ex C&W 41056 666.750 6.887
Dundee TW 40982 619.000 6.952
Dublin (Ireland) NTL 42753 363.000 6.887
East London Ex C&W 41050 666.750 6.952
Edenbridge TW 41020 411.000 6.952
Edinburgh/Lothian TW 40981 619.000 6.952
Ely Cambs NTL 00009 755.000 6.887
Essex 1 NTL ex c&w 41050 666.750 6.887
Essex 2 TW 40978 619.000 6.952
Farnham NTL 00003 755.000 6.887
Farnborough NTL 00003 755.000 6.887
Falkirk TW 40981 619.000 6.952
Fife TW 40981 619.000 6.952
Gateshead TW 40969 571.000 6.952
Glasgow 1 NTL 00002 755.000 6.887
Glasgow 2 TW 40984 619.000 6.952
Gravesend-Kent TW 58700 414.000 6.952
Grimsby 1 NTL 00022 755.000 6.887
Grimsby 2 NTL 00022 643.000 6.887
Gt Yarmouth Ex C&W 41055 666.750 6.952
Guilford 00003 755.000
Hackney N. London TW 40985 515.000 6.952
Hampshire 41042
Hampton TW 40979 531.000
Hanwell W.London NTL 41047 562.750 6.887
Hanwell W.London NTL 41047 666.750 6.887
Harrow NTL ex C&W 41047 539.000 6.952
Harlow NTL 00009 579.000 6.887
Hemel Hempstead NTL 00017 803.000 6.887
Hearts & Beds. NTL 00005 643.000 6.887
Heston Middlesex TW 40980 539.000 6.952
High Wycombe NTL 00013 803.000 6.887
Hounslow/Osterley TW 40979 531.000 6.952
Huddersfield TW 40961 539.000 6.952
Huddersfield NTL 00001 755.000 6.887
Ilford Ex C&W 41050 666.750 6.887
Ipswich NTL 00011 755.000 6.887
Irvine OM 42648 322.000 6.952
Kew TW 40979 531.000
Kingstone TW 40979 531.000 6.952
Kidderminster Worcs. TW 40974 130.000 6.952
Keighley TW 40961 539.000
Kilburn TW 40985 515.000 6.952
Kenton Ex C&W 41047 666.750 6.952
Kingsbury Ex C&W 41047 666.750
Leyland Lancs. Ex C&W 41000 531.000 6.887
Lancaster OM 42653 322.000 6.887
Leeds Ex C&W 41053 666.750 6.952
Leicester 1 NTL 00012 643.000 6.887
Leicester 2 NTL 00012 739.000 6.887
Leamington Spa NTL 00016 803.000 6.887
Lewisham NTL ex C&W 41047 666.750 6.887
LIVERPOOL 1 - NORTH TW 40966 571.000 6.952
LIVERPOOL 2 - NORTH TW 40965 571.000 6.952
Liverpool SOUTH TW 40916 411.000 6.952
Luton 1 NTL 00005 755.000 6.887
Luton 2 NTL 00005 739.000 6.887
Maidstone Kent TW 40976 619.000 6.952
Manchester 1 NTL ex C&W 41040 666.750 6.887
Manchester 2 NTL ex C&W 41060 666.750 6.952
Mansfild Notts NTL 00008 755.000 6.887
Mansfild Notts NTL 00008 739.000 6.887
Morden TW 40979 531.000
Mortlake TW 40979 531.000
Micham TW 40979 531.000
New Addington TW 40979 531.000
Newbury Berks. NTL 00013 803.000 6.887
New Malden TW 40979 531.000
North Lanarkshire TW 40984 619.000 6.952
North London TW 40985 515.000 6.952
North West London NTL 00005 666.750 6.887
Norwich Ex C&W 41055 666.750 6.952
Nottingham 1 NTL 00008 755.000 6.887
Nottingham 2 NTL 00008 739.000 6.887
Northampton NTL 00018 579.000 6.887
Nuneaton NTL 00016 803.000 6.887
Oxford 1 NTL 00020 578.250 6.887
Oxford 2 NTL 00020 818.250 6.887
Oxford 3 NTL 00013 803.000 6.887
Peterborough 1 NTL 41049 666.750 6.887
Peterborough 2 NTL 00009 755.000 6.887
Plumsted Ex c&w 41047 666.750 6.887
Plymouth TW 40988 787.000 6.952
Porthcawl NTL 00004 755.000
Portsmouth (Cosham) NTL 41042 666.750
Portsmouth (Solent) NTL ex C&W 41042 562.750
Port Talbot NTL 00007 755.000 6.887
Poole NTL EX C&W 41043 666.750 6.952
Potters Bar NTL EX C&W 41051 666.750 6.952
Preston Lancs. TW 40968 531.000 6.952
Purley TW 40979 531.000
Rainford (StHelens) TW 40966 571.000 6.952
Rayens Park TW 40979 531.000
Reading NTL 00013 803.000 6.887
Readitch TW 40974 131.000 6.952
Rochdale TW 41060 666.750 6.952
Richmnd upon Thames TW 40979 531.000 6.952
Runcorn NTL EX C&W 41048 666.750 6.952
Rugby NTL 00016 803.000
Sedgley Wst Midlnds TW 40973 6.952
Seven Kings Ex C&W 41050 666.750 6.952
Shefild TW 40963
Sheperds Bush NTL 41050 666.750 6.887
Sittingbourn Kent TW 40976 666.750
South Herts. EX C&W 41051 666.750
South Yorks. TW 40964 539.000
Southampton 1 EX C&W 41048 666.750 6.887
Southampton 2 EX C&W 41071 666.750 6.887
St Albans NTL 00017 803.000 6.887
Stafford NTL 00015 826.250 6.887
Steavanage NTL 00005 755.000
Stockport EX C&W 41066 666.750 6.887
Stoke on Trent 1 EX C&W 41063 666.750 6.887
Stoke on Trent 2 EX C&W 41064 666.750 6.887
Surbiton TW 40979 531.000
Surry Ex C&W 41045 666.750 6.887
Sussex NTL 41044 666.750 6.887
SWINDON 1 NTL 00006 579.000 6.887
SWINDON 2 NTL 00006 803.000 6.887
Swansea NTL 00007 755.000 6.887
Sutton/Micham TW 40979 531.000 6.952
Teeside NTL 00010 571.000 6.887
Telford TW 40973 131.000 6.952
Tooting TW 40979 531.000
Thames Valley NTL 00013 803.000 6.887
Thornton Heath TW 40979 531.000
Tolworth TW 40979 531.000
Twickenham TW 40979 531.000
Uddingston TW 40984
Upton Pk Ex C&W 41050 666.750
Walsall West Mids. TW 40974 131.000 6.952
Waltham Abbey Ex C&W 41050 666.750 6.952
Warwick 00016 803.000
Warrington NTL ex C&W 41060 666.750 6.952
Washngton Tyne+Wear NTL 41054 666.750 6.887
Watford Herts NTL ex C&W 41051 666.750 6.952
Waterford NTL 42754 666.750 6.887
Waterford NTL 42747 666.750 6.887
Waterloo EX C&W 41047 666.750 6.952
Wearside EX C&W 41054 666.750 6.887
Wembly EX C&W 41047 666.750 6.887
Walthamstow London EX C&W 41050 666.750 6.952
West Bromwich TW 40974 131.000
Westminster London EX C&W 41047 666.750 6.952
Wimbledon TW 40979 531.000
Wigan TW 40967 531.000 6.952
Wessex Ex C&W 41043 666.750 6.887
West London/Midlsex TW 40980 539.000 6.952
West Yorkshire TW 40961 539.000 6.952
West Yorkshire NTL 00001 755.000 6.887
Widnes Cheshire NTL EX C&W 41048 666.750 6.952
Wigan TW 40967 531.000 6.952
Wirral Merseyside 1 Ex C&W 41048 666.750 6.952
Wirral Merseyside 2 Ex C&W 41060 666.750 6.952
Woking Surry NTL 00003 643.000 6.887
Wolverhampton NTL / TW 40973 131.000 6.952
Woodgreen TW 40985 515.000 6.952
Worcester Park TW 40979 531.000
York Ex C&W 41065 666.750 6.887
York Ex C&W 41064 666.750 6.887
Yardly W-Mids 41015 643.000 6.887

bobsylas
17-08-2008, 09:42 PM
I can confirm the data for Blackburn is correct same as Darwen which is not listed

41048
666750
6952

lincsat
18-08-2008, 02:40 AM
That list is an old one, probably ex commando - Lincoln is missing :)

PaphosAL
18-08-2008, 09:46 AM
found this on the famous toolbar site , may be of help to you Al



Dunno, Fatman- A close look at this list suggests a degree of artistic licence has been used, m8. There are an awful lot of 6887 listings with 666.750 Freqency and 4xxxx NetID- which just don't look right at all to me...

I reckon 'Carleboy' has just guessed. I'll pass on this one! Cheers- AL

turner123
18-08-2008, 05:36 PM
Hi Al i found this just thought it maybe of some use to you? i thought it may well be more upto date as preston is in twice with the 2 net ids?

PaphosAL
18-08-2008, 07:34 PM
Thanks, Turner. This fills in some of the gaps, but in all cases, replaces a 000000 Frequency in the original list with that ubiquitous 666750 ...

Oh well, I guess we'd better run with that lot, until someone shows different, eh?

And does no-one actually LIVE in Co. Meath over there in the Republic? C'mon- let's be having your details PLEASE!

Cheers- AL

lincsat
22-08-2008, 12:53 AM
I've received confirmation on another forum that Belfast is 643000 and not 755000. Although I suspect that most of NTL will work with any active frequency so long as the NetID and SR is correct.