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tinkertiler
08-12-2007, 04:12 PM
[08:21] +c4eva: the problem with kreon is all timings are fake/estimated, not from original disk
[08:23] +c4eva: dump ss with samy is the best, kreon can be used to dump game data/dmi/pfi
[08:24] DannyZee: c4eva: but Kreon told us his firmware was OK, and the problem was with the iXtreme?
[08:25] +c4eva: kreon timings are not ok, they are valid to boot, but still could be suspect
[08:25] DannyZee: +c4eva: that means that ALL kreon rips are bad then :/
[08:26] +c4eva: just the ss (timings)
[08:29] +c4eva: 1.4 will fix the 360 value, but will not fix kreon suspect timings
[08:30] +c4eva: evenn though 360 is valid as it still boots, no proof 360 is invalid
[08:34] +c4eva: sdf495:dump ss with sammy is the only true correct values
[08:35] +c4eva: 1.4 gives jitter with fixed wrap, so a timer value of 6801 will become 0000
[08:37] +c4eva: as kreon ss will sometimes have 6701, then a possible jitter of +1 will give 6801
[08:38] +c4eva: blindly changing 6701 to 0000 may still boot, but could be suspect for that particular game
[08:45] +c4eva: sammy 0800 records actual timings from the disk, so is best
[08:53] +c4eva: fact remains a new game may have new timing values and kreon will just put a fake/estimated value in
[08:55] +c4eva: kreon fw would have to replicate exact routines to do timers, this may not be possible with its drive hardware
[08:57] Meks: c4eva: did the timmings use to always be the same, was kreon correct up until a certain release?
[08:58] +c4eva: meks:it was ok up to the bannings, as what would boot is not good enough, values must be from the disk


[09:29] <c4eva> 1.4 will fix the 360 value, but will not fix kreon suspect timings
;[09:30] <c4eva> evenn though 360 is valid as it still boots, no proof 360 is invalid
;[09:34] <c4eva> sdf495:dump ss with sammy is the only true correct values
;[09:35] <c4eva> 1.4 gives jitter with fixed wrap, so a timer value of 6801 will become 0000
;[09:36] <c4eva> as kreon ss will sometimes have 6701, then a possible jitter of +1 will give 6801
;[09:38] <c4eva> blindly changing 6701 to 0000 may still boot, but could be suspect for that particular game
;[09:41] <c4eva> this is why i didnt make 1.4 blindly change timer value to 0000, as that may not be correct for that particular game
;[09:43] <c4eva> 1.4 has been finished for days on all drives
;[09:41] <nylan> So can we use bad kreon rips with 1.4 on live, or not? And if not I still don't see why a 1.4. Anyone please clear this up for my dumb ass.
;[09:43] <M0mD4d> nylan: because the 6801 can occur even on older games where the 6701 is valid
;[09:45] <c4eva> sammy 0800 records actual timings from the disk, so is best
;[09:53] <c4eva> fact remains a new game may have new timing values and kreon will just put a fake/estimated value in
;[09:55] <c4eva> kreon fw would have to replicate exact routines to do timers, this may not be possible with its drive hardware
;[10:02] <c4eva> soulpet:fact would ramain that you are not using actual 360 drive hardware, and timings could not be trusted

tinkertiler
09-12-2007, 12:17 PM
iXtreme firmware 1.4 ALL VERSIONS

A new release of ixtreme firmware, for all versions of drive (except v78/79 hitachi, which maximus will release shortly)..
Features
(v1.4) Disc jitter fix

Note: Everyone is wondering why people were getting banned a few weeks back. Here is a short summary of our speculation:

There are specific timers within the challenge/response protocol that may be checked by MS to determine as criteria for banning. We believe they are measuring one or more to find discrepancies. While a lot of this is speculation, and a lot of data is inaccurate as far as replication due to different mechanics, there may be specific timers that can be easily read. One that we are focusing on has to do with the degree's of disc rotation, which will generate a sum (0,90,180,270) and embed that data within the Security Sector file. Now, we recently have noticed a change within games in regards to that Challenge/Response timer.

We recently found out that new games ripped with kreon drives will give back a degree, that in combination with ixtreme jitter, will produce a 360 degree value. This would be a unacceptable range (should only be 0-359). This is a detectable and possibly a criteria for the recent ban waves. Also, this would explain why some users got banned playing the same games that others played, and did not get banned. The point of jitter is to randomly give back proper values. With that in mind, a random jitter value from a kreon drive, with a random jitter from a ixtreme drive will rarely give back a 360 degree value. This new ixtreme will wrap that value to ensure that no 360 degree value can be submitted.

Now, a note of recommendation, due to statistical findings. We have spent days ripping *thousands* of security sector's with various drive/software combinations and have come to the following:

The most accurate/valid SS replication is done with a samsung drive using Schtrom 360 xtract or XBC. So far, we have seen only a very small percentage of 6701 rips in comparison to kreon. Now, given that, i think it is important to inform that this value was previously normal with older games. It may or may not be normal with *every* new game, but with some so far.
So, if you are planning on backing up your purchased games, please try to use samsung with schtrom 360 xtract or XBC for the most reliable replica possible!!!! This *could* mean the difference from being banned on xbox live, or not.

Now, as always, remember that you are modifying your console *at your own risk*. If you make a backup of your game and play it on xbox live, you will always run a risk of getting your console banned.

This release also comes with firmtool 1.2, here is the changelog:
- Added support for Samsung ms19
- Added prompt for Samsung firmware to copy version strings.
This will allow for those who want their ms25,ms21,or ms19 to report as a ms28.
- Added Xtreme/iXtreme version detection in the hacked source
- Added extra check of BenQ key range for odd BenQ firmware revisions
- Rewrote firmware and version detection. Works properly with all spoofed firmware.
- Added spoofed firmware detection

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iXtreme firmware 1.4 for all Xbox 360
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Media Stealth, Disc-Jitter, Disc-Lockon, FirmGuard, Xbox 360 backup firmware modification!

Features
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(v1.4) Disc jitter fix
(v1.3) Fixed PTP DVD Movies
(v1.3) More Secure for Xbox Live
(V1.3) Multiple Speed Versions
(v1.2 Rev2) Failed Stealth backups report normal disc information
(v1.2) Extra verification performed on Stealth backups
(v1.1) Extra verification performed on Stealth backups
(v1.0) Defeats all current Xbox Live detection attempts
(v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 360 backups
(v1.0) Boots ONLY Stealth Xtreme Xbox 1 backups
(v1.0) Boots all Xbox 360 originals
(v1.0) Boots all Xbox 1 originals on Xbox 360

Use on Xbox Live at own risk

Technical details
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Defeats all current Xbox Live detection attempts.

Keep up the good work everyone.

Creating Ixtreme firmware
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Copy your orig.bin into the appropriate folder
Run the "Make iXtreme firmware" batch file
This will create a ix14.bin file for flashing
Use the excellent Doshflash program by Schtrom or MTKFLASH to flash your drive with the ix14.bin file

tinkertiler
09-12-2007, 12:18 PM
Use the new maximus 360 Firmware Toolbox for v78/79 Hitachi
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iPrep 101 006 And updated ixDef 1.4
For use in flashing a Samsung TS-H943A or BenQ DVD drives
Verzend.be - send files up to 1GB for free - iPrep_101_006_And_updated_ixDef_1.4.rar (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Samsung iXtreme 1.4
Verzend.be - send files up to 1GB for free - Samsung.iXtreme.1.4.rar (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Benq iXtreme v1.4
Verzend.be - send files up to 1GB for free - Benq.iXtreme.v1.4.rar (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Hitachi iXtreme1.4
Verzend.be - send files up to 1GB for free - iXtreme1.4_Hitachi.rar (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. iPrep 101 006

for use in flashing a Samsung TS-H943A or BenQ DVD drives.

- Detect your SATA/RAID controller, HEX-Edits MTKFlash, builds BenQ batch files.
- Formats your floppy/usb drive and copies all necessary files over.
- Can be used with NTFS cd's, creates a folder on your hdd.
- MD5 checker when selecting your firmware lets you know your firmware is legit.
- Updateable Firmware definitions.
- Provides simple to use on screen instructions in MSDOS.
- Works with all current iXtreme firmwares.
- Load Firmware from .bin or .rar.

How to Use:
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To Flash:
1. Load your floppy disk or connect your USB Flash Drive. (optional)
2. Run iPrep 101.
3. Select your SATA device.
4. Open your iXtreme Firmware's .bin or .rar file.
(Can be either Samsung or BenQ or Both)
6. Click "Prepare Destination".
7. Boot from your prepared drive or your NTFS cd.
8. Follow the on-screen instructions.

To Restore: (Requires back-up of firmware)
1. Boot from your prepared drive or your NTFS cd.
2. Type r[Ben/Sam] 7-digit serial 5-digit serial.
3. Follow the on-screen instructions.
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Tutorial Flashing Benq Drive easy guide (Same for the Samsung Drive)
Revolution :: Login (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Textbook's Xbox 360 Firmware Flashing Tutorial
360Mods ? Downloads ? Textbook's Xbox 360 Firmware Flashing Tutorial (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Slax 2.1
Slax is the used to put an Xbox 360 Hitachi drive into ModeB
http://tinyurl.com/3e2r66 (Download)
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Maximus 360 Firmware Toolbox 4.5
Verzend.be - send files up to 1GB for free - Maximus_FIRMWARE_TOOLBOX_V4.5.rar (http://www.verzend.be/v/2883116/Maximus_FIRMWARE_TOOLBOX_V4.5.rar.html)