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Shipoftheline
23-03-2007, 02:07 PM
FIFTEEN Royal Navy sailors have been seized by Iranian warships in Iraqi territorial waters, the Ministry of Defence said today.

Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett has summoned the Iranian ambassador in London to demand their immediate release, a spokesman said.

The incident happened following a routine inspection of a merchant ship off Iraq.

The MoD said the incident happened at around 10.30am local time.

?The boarding party had completed a successful inspection of a merchant ship when they and their two boats were surrounded and escorted by Iranian vessels into Iranian territorial waters,? a spokesman said.

?We are urgently pursuing this matter with the Iranian authorities at the
highest level and on the instructions of the Foreign Secretary, the Iranian ambassador has been summoned to the Foreign Office.

?The British Government is demanding the immediate and safe return of our people and equipment.?

The personnel seized were from the Type 22 frigate HMS Cornwall.

A BBC News 24 reporter on the ship, Ian Pannell, said that they had just boarded when the servicemen were seized.

?While they were on board, a number of Iranian boats approached the waters in which they were operating - the Royal Navy are insistent that they were operating in Iraqi waters and not Iranian waters - and essentially captured the Royal Navy and Royal Marine personnel at gunpoint,? he said.


And remember this Islamic state is after nukes

y2krog2000
23-03-2007, 02:15 PM
This is not the 1st time Iran has done something like this, they should throw the Iranian embasssadors that are in the U.K. in jail until they release the British hostages.

Shipoftheline
23-03-2007, 02:22 PM
I know they want to make us look weak and keep doing this. It's about time the navy acted like a bloody navy and kicked some ass

y2krog2000
24-03-2007, 10:49 AM
The Iranians are saying that the navigation system on the British boat proves that they were in Iranian territory.

The Iranians said that they have admitted being in their waters and are now being interrogated. BBC NEWS | UK | Sailors admitted incursion - Iran (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6491577.stm)

Shipoftheline
25-03-2007, 01:14 PM
The Iranians are saying that the navigation system on the British boat proves that they were in Iranian territory.

The Iranians said that they have admitted being in their waters and are now being interrogated. BBC NEWS | UK | Sailors admitted incursion - Iran (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6491577.stm)

And when they come back they say that they were told to say this, we've seen it all before. Do you believe anything the Iranians say ?

y2krog2000
25-03-2007, 02:23 PM
Do you believe anything the Iranians say ?

I seen this on the news earlier and there is no border that devides the water and both countries think thats it is theres so the both could be right, and no I wouldnt believe anything the Iranians say just the same as I wouldnt believe anything the American or British heads of state tell people either because they would tell anyone lies to get themselves out of trouble.

Shipoftheline
25-03-2007, 02:50 PM
and this doesnt change the fact that the navy is next to useless and should have kicked the Iranians arse. Our army is stretched to hell right now but it looks like they should be baby sitting the ruddy navy too

y2krog2000
25-03-2007, 02:53 PM
Aye the Navy are useless, these ones that were picked up were probably some of the best the navy has to offer too.

Shipoftheline
25-03-2007, 03:03 PM
Tony Blair is on the news now saying it simply isn't true that they went into Iranian waters. I have to believe him on this the navy maybe panzies but they're not thick

nss1888
26-03-2007, 08:09 AM
Devils Advocate Alert!
Devils Advocate Alert!

It is quite possible as the waters are disputed that what both governments are claiming is true depending whose map you look at.....

But it may just be a propoganda stunt... not that I'm synical, you understand :wink:

y2krog2000
26-03-2007, 08:21 AM
It is quite possible as the waters are disputed that what both governments are claiming is true depending whose map you look at.....

Thats what I said and thats what has happened, the Navy has said that it has came across the Iranians before in that stretch of water but the Iranians have never tried to capture them "probably because they were in a big gun ship", they are trying to proove a point in capturing these people but all I can see coming the Iranians way is more sanctions and I would love to see a visit from the S.A.S. if possible.

Shipoftheline
26-03-2007, 08:34 AM
It is quite possible as the waters are disputed that what both governments are claiming is true depending whose map you look at.....

It's more than possible its true they are and it's said that Iran is trying to use these people as bargaining chips to get captured Iranain spys back which were captured in Iraq !

If they want a game of hard ball then it's about time we gave them one instead of our navy playing netball

y2krog2000
28-03-2007, 09:22 AM
Well Tony Blairs has said they have sattelite pictures of the moment they were captured to proove that the hostages were in Iraqi waters when they were captured, forget about Iraq they should invade Iran and set the hostages free after all there are no British hostages in Iraq.

Shipoftheline
28-03-2007, 10:09 AM
I’ll tell you another thing that has annoyed the hell out of me and that’s how the media is reporting this. Check out any newspapers/news channel and they are all focusing on the women because she is a mother rather than them all as a group. The group also has fathers but everything seems to be about her in fact I think it’s time women were taken off front line duties

The Sun Online - News: First photos of hostage mum (To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 1 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Sky News: Iran Proof To Be Published (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1257880,00.html)

BBC NEWS | UK | Iran stand-off dangerous - Reid (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6501555.stm)

y2krog2000
28-03-2007, 10:30 AM
They are focusing on the woman because she was the only one who was named at the start "probably well thought out", it looks worse for the Iranians if the newspapers keep on banging on about the fact that it is a woman who has been held hostage and it would put more pressure on the Iranians to release the hostages.

Shipoftheline
28-03-2007, 10:49 AM
Can't agree and it's not the first time this has happened either so, so much for equality

y2krog2000
28-03-2007, 11:09 AM
There is always going to be far more pressure on the Iranians to release a woman hostage than release a male, it may not be fair but its the truth and the ministry of defence are well aware of this and im sure the reason why she was the only one named.

Shipoftheline
28-03-2007, 11:20 AM
There is always going to be far more pressure on the Iranians to release a woman hostage than release a male, it may not be fair but its the truth and the ministry of defence are well aware of this and im sure the reason why she was the only one named.

Which is sexist in itself so we'll have to agree to disagree

y2krog2000
28-03-2007, 06:01 PM
I knew she was going to get out before the men, the Iranians have said they will release the woman hostage very soon. BBC NEWS | UK | Iran TV shows female navy captive (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6503657.stm)

andyboyrfc
28-03-2007, 11:44 PM
a think the S.A.S will already be in iran as we speak ready to pounce and free the hostages and i hope they do

kamrez224
29-03-2007, 06:39 AM
i think they are going to bargain for the release of iranian diplomats captured by americans in iraq,before they release our navy soldiers

Shipoftheline
29-03-2007, 08:25 AM
a think the S.A.S will already be in iran as we speak ready to pounce and free the hostages and i hope they do

We have what 100 SAS soldiers if that and the hostages will be held in a heavily guarded compound so I doubt the SAS would be used unless they had some heavy backup