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    Kein System Please post here

    I flashed the wrong image to my Sagem and now have "Kein System" I have tried everything that I can find on the forums to try and re-flash the correct image, but no joy. IFA will not work as it fails to see the dbox. I am at my wits end. Have I wrecked the box or is there still hope. Please help.

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    Re: Sagem Kein System

    hi alan
    it might be the way your using IFA
    i,m at work at the moment but as soon as i get in i,ll look up some help files for you
    Kein System don,t mean its wrecked
    it just needs sorting mate Hidden Content

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    Re: Sagem Kein System

    Appreciate that Hunter0007. I am still f******* around with this Sagem. I will wait until later on, and give it a go then. Thanks a lot.

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    Re: Sagem Kein System

    Had same problem last week,what i did was use ifa and make sure all the ip settings were correct first when you boot up ifa have the box turned off then turn it on when ifa starts,worked for meHidden Content

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    Re: Sagem Kein System

    How to start ImageFlashingAssistant:

    1. DBOX must be in Debug Mode already !!!
    2. Turn off DBOX
    3. Start Application
    4. Choose Drive where you have the Image you want to flash
    5. Choose the right network Card where the DBOX is connected to
    6. Choose if you have a nullmodem Cable and what Com Port
    7. Click Start
    8. On Windows XP SP2 you now need to click unblock
    9. Power your Box up and the Software does the Rest
    10. Display will say Flashing whilst Software is transfered and then Flashing Done after about 2 1/2 Minutes or about 10 minutes on a Sagem 1x Dbox.



    If you have any Problems doing so please press the arrow up key on the dbox for about 2-3 seconds whilst the box boots up. This starts the Memorytest and gives the PC a bit more time to find the network card.

    hope this helps
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    Re: Sagem Kein System

    Make aure you turn off all antivorus software and disable all firewalls, including XP firewall...or it won't work!

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    Re: Sagem Kein System

    sometimes win xp needs the mediasensing patch too, download the attached file and apply:3:


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    Re: Sagem Kein System

    I am in the same boat here , stupidly hit the wrong file and flashed x2 image on sgem x1, trying to use IFA but dont see any message saying "Flashing" were should it be - on the DBox itself?, using xover but with no nullmodem cable any help would be apprieciated

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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    Seems to be a good thread to make into a sticky for those others that get the dreaded KEIN SYSTEM
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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    Thanks to Hunter0007 and the rest of you guys, I was able to fix the sagem. As you all said, I made sure that the settings were correct and the trick seems to be to catch the Dbox as it is starting. It is a little bit hit and miss. You can do it without a null modem cable, but you will not see what is going on.
    Sagem up and running. Cannot thank you guys enough !!!Hidden Content

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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    If you do it without a null modem do still see "Flashing" I only have the xover

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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    yup
    press the ok to flash
    count to 5 and plug the dbox back into the mains Hidden Content

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    Smile Re: Kein System Please post here

    Without the null modem cable. On the LCD will be written

    dbox2
    imageflashingassistant

    (C)Hallenberg.com

    You will have to take a guess as to when the box has successfully been flashed. I would leave it for half an hour and then unplug and replug the box.

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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    normally you will get fertig and a line of smiley's when its finished
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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    still nothing waited 5 secs, plugged in dbox nothing saying "Flashing" etc do i need to know the ip addy of the box, cause i dont, is there anything i am doing wrong?

    this is what happend.

    loaded wrong image onto sagem 1x
    Loaded IFA
    browsed for 1 x image
    picked correct network adapter
    said no to null modem cable
    hit start waited 5 secs then turnned on box at the mains.
    box still sits there saying "Kein system "at the bottom

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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    its all in the timing mate
    unplug box first then run IFA then plug box back in see if that helps

    no you dont need the IP address it will pick it up
    also check your using a cross over cable

    youll get there Hidden Content

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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    try running IFA then plugging the dbox in, if nothing happens press the standby and arrow up button on the front of your dbox simultainisly to reboot it, you will probably have to do it a few times until it catch's IFA.

    it's a much better solution than havin to keep unplugging it at the mains

    and apply the media sensing patch:3: been loads of people with this problem, after using the patch it flashed first time.

    also ive read lots of people have problems with version 2.0 of IFA. try an older version if you have 2.0
    Last edited by Hoagy; 30-05-2006 at 08:47 PM.

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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    does anyone have an old version of IFA to try it out

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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    ver:1.56
    not sure it,ll make a difference but i wish you luck Hidden Content
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    Re: Kein System Please post here

    still no joy it was v1.56 i had any way so if any one has v2 it must be worth a try, i read in early threads to check IP settings, but if i dont need an IP address for the box what am i checking for

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