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    XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

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    XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

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    GOOD NEWS GUYS, XGD3=DEFEATED! ALL INFO AND VIDEO PROOF BELOW!

    NO ONE EXCEPT GAME PUBLISHERS KNOWS IF THE GAME WILL BE XGD3 OR NOT!

    PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS FW OR GAME LEAKS, RUMORS OR SPECULATIONS HERE. THX!

    FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS. JUST MAKE SURE IT'S NOT ALREADY ANSWERED!




    LATEST UPDATE-> October 2, 15:55 GMT



    **NEWS**

    10/02/2011- Lite-On 9504/0272 in testing!
    10/02/2011- LT+2.0 confirmed supporting 8.7Gb DVD+R DL backups!
    10/01/2011- ABGX is being updated for XGD3 support!
    10/01/2011- Samsung TS-H943 in testing!
    09/30/2011- XGD3 Burning method released to public!
    09/30/2011- XGD3 Backups confirmed safe on XBL!
    09/28/2011- BenQ VAD6038 LT+ 2.0 and Lite-On DG-16D2S in testing!
    09/26/2011- Video proof of booting XGD3 games and installing them to HDD has been posted by C4EVA!
    09/25/2011- XGD3 has been defeated. LT+ 2.0 & LT-MAX feature for DVD DL. XGD3 .iso's playing/installing fine from DVD DL disc!
    09/21/2011- BenQ 0800 VAD6038 v3.0 and Lite-On 0800 DG-16D2S v3.0 are completed (testing in progress!)
    09/16/2011- XGD3 games have been successfully ripped! Available to public!
    09/07/2011- XGD3 games confirmed working on ODE!
    08/31/2011- First XGD3 released-Driver SF


    **FAQ**

    What does XGD3 stands for?
    Xbox Game Disc 3.

    What is XGD3?
    XGD3 is new disc format developed by Microsoft. Basically it adds more AP (Anti Piracy) and CVI (content integerity) checks. Microsoft?s current format structure creates a partition weighing in at around 1GB, filled with anti-piracy sectors. This update tweaks the approach to significantly save on space, or omits the partition altogether. The most notable perk is an extra 1 GB of storage space on the new format for developers to utilize.The XGD3 format will write to an extra "layer" on the disc. Not to be confused for a physical layer, the discs are still nothing more than Dual-Layer DVDs. However, the discs do read in at a larger capacity.

    Will disc type change?
    No! Even with XGD3 XBOX360 games will stay on DVD, dual-layer at 8.5GB! Physical space available on an XGD3 disc is just resized partitions. No need for overburning!

    Will all consoles support XGD3?
    According to Microsoft, XGD3 discs will work with all previously released (and future) models of the Xbox 360. If they don't you can ask for replacement!

    Is AP2.5 and XGD3 same thing?
    No! This should not be confused with AP2.5 or wave. This is a completely new type/format of game disc and it actually needs new FW to read game discs, even legit XGD3 game won't boot unless you don't have latest STOCK or CUSTOM FIRMWARE!

    What do I need to play legit XGD3 games?
    You need to update console to latest dashboard. Dashboard 2.0.13146 and newer adds support for XGD3 format. You can play legit XGD3 games either on OFW (Official Firmware) or on CFW (Custom Firmware), since C4eva added XGD3 support to his CFW (LT+ v1.9 and newer!)

    What do I need to play backup XGD3 games?
    You either need JTAG or ODE. Those are only way ATM. To play them on normal (flashed) console you need LT+2.0 (not released yet!).

    How can I burn XGD3?
    Instructions are written below!

    Are XGD3 backups going to be safe?
    Yes. XGD3 backups are as safe as any other backup!

    When will LT+ X.XX be released that supports XGD3?
    C4eva announced that LT+ 2.0 is planned for eventual XGD3 backup support. LT+ 2.0 is in testing and should be released soon (This can be a time period from few days to few months!)!

    When will new FW be released?
    Soon. This can be a time period from few days to few months!

    When will XGD3 ripping FW be released?
    BenQ 0800 (VAD6038) is completed but not yet released. Lite-On 0800 (DG-16D2S) is in testing. There is no ETA on release!

    What's the reason behind releasing XGD3?
    Even tho Microsoft never confirmed it, it's obvious that their goal is to prevent piracy! Microsoft and Xbox scene have been playing a cat-and-mouse game for a long time. MS introduced quicker dashboard updates, AP 2.5 check, AP 2.6 check etc. All of those have been "defeated". XGD3 just continues the cat-and-mouse game.

    Will all games be released on XGD3 now?
    Not necessarily! Game publishers have control over this.

    What is ODE?
    ODE is Optical Drive Emulator. X360key and Wasabi360 Ultra are ODE. What it means is, with these pieces of hardware you can play games from your HDD (not xbox HDD). So basically you don't need to burn games to discs.

    What is LT-MAX?
    LT-MAX is a feature included in LT+2.0. It's one of the reason why XGD3 games can be burned and played on LT+ 2.0.

    Who are guys mentioned in your thread?
    Commodore4eva or shorter c4eva is probably the most famous guy on xbox scene. He's famous for his firmware hacks (eg. LT+) which allows us to play backup games!
    COMPLEX and XB3 are a group of people who rips and/or release-upload games on internet!

    List of XGD3 games:

    -Driver San Francisco -playable on JTAG & ODE-
    -Dead Island -playable on any console-
    -Warhammer 40000 Space Marine -playable on JTAG & ODE-
    -Rise of Nightmares -playable on JTAG-
    -Gears of War 3 -playable on JTAG & ODE-
    -X-Men Destiny -playable on JTAG-
    -Rage -playable on JTAG-


    NOTES:
    *For some odd reason it seems not all copies of Dead Island have XGD3 depending on where you buy it!
    *All games listed above have been confirmed having XGD3 by COMPLEX, XB3 and MARVEL!
    *Only games that are cofirmed having XGD3 by a reliable source (i.e. xbox scene) will be listed above. No speculations or rumors!

    XGD3 process...

    LT+ 2.0 CFW WITH LT-MAX

    You Tube



    LT+ 2.0/v3.0 FIRMWARE DEVELOPMENT

    LT+2.0

    PHAT
    Hitachi (78/79) IN PROGRESS
    Samsung (TS-H943) IN TESTING
    BenQ (VAD6038) IN TESTING
    Lite-On (DG-16D2S) IN TESTING
    SLIM
    Lite-On 9504 IN TESTING
    Lite-On 0225 IN PROGRESS
    Lite-On 0401 IN PROGRESS
    Lite-On 1071 IN PROGRESS

    v3.0
    BenQ 0800 VAD6038 v3.0 COMPLETED - NOT YET RELEASED
    Lite-On 0800 DG-16D2S v3.0 IN TESTING

    GAME BURNING
    The team successfully burned XGD3 games on normal DVDR DL disc. Game partition was expanded on backup to use all available space, this way games load and install to hdd fine!

    ************************************************** ***
    INSTRUCTIONS FOR BURNING XGD3 BACKUPS WITH IMGBURN

    We recommended that you use the latest version of ImgBurn (v2.5.5.0
    at the time of writing, downloadable at
    . Older versions may
    handle this process differently and/or give a different set of
    errors.

    Although it is set by default in ImgBurn, please ensure that under
    Tools > Settings > Write, you have "Layer Break (For DL Media)" set
    to "Calculate Optimal".

    Please ensure that the layerbreak is set as 2133520 in the .dvd file.
    If you already have the XGD2 (or other) layerbreak value set in
    ImgBurn, the .dvd of the XGD3 ISO will override that setting and use
    the proper layerbreak.

    As mentioned above, ImgBurn will automatically reposition/limit the
    layerbreak to 2086912 when burning to regular DVD+R DL discs.

    Please see the included imgburn-xgd3-errors.png image for screenshots
    of the errors you'll encounter in ImgBurn and what to click on in
    each dialog that pops up.

    Step by Step:

    1. Choose "Write image file to disc", and after loading the .dvd
    file, click "Write".

    2. ImgBurn will pop up a notice saying that there is not enough
    space on the disc to burn the image, and asks if you would like to
    continue anyway. Click "Yes".

    3. Another message might pop up saying that optimal layerbreak
    position exceeds L0 capacity. Click "Yes".

    4. An error will then pop up noting that "Set L0 Data Zone
    Capacity Failed". Click "Continue".

    5. The image will begin writing to the disc.

    6. Nearing the end of the write process, ImgBurn will pop up an
    error at around 97% or 98% (this is what we want -- it's
    intentional!). Click "Cancel".

    7. A notice will then pop up asking if you would like ImgBurn to
    try and perform the "'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions". Click
    "Yes".

    8. Let the disc finalize, and you're done!



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    Re: XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

    I wonder how much it costs MS to develop these new security measures?
    As it seems that they are defeated before games with them are even released, they should just give up and accept defeat, it would probably work out more cost effective for them in the long run!
    They may have to support games developers, but you can't tell me that one of the reasons for the ongoing sales success of the 360, isn't down to the fact that customers know they will be able to mod their consoles to play backups?

    Its good for all of us that MS refuse to incorporate Blu Ray in their consoles!
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    Re: XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

    Ive got a feeling that they are going on a banning spree as the way you burn these discs is just not right!! You get errors and failures and they work which rings alarm bells with me big style!!

    If you play on live and want to keep live its just not worth having a modded drive anymore. With the new glitch hack coming very soon dual boot is a very realistic possibilty so you can have the best of both worlds Hidden Content
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    Re: XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

    What is ODE?
    ODE is Optical Drive Emulator. X360key and Wasabi360 Ultra are ODE. What it means is, with these pieces of hardware you can play games from your HDD (not xbox HDD). So basically you don't need to burn games to discs.

    Can you explain a bit more about this tink, in words even I can understand? Hidden Content
    I like the idea of not having to buy and burn disks, just so that I can use them only once, to install a game to the hdd.
    Not because I am tight, but because the quality of some of the DL disks you can buy are so random and unreliable from batch to batch!

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    Re: XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

    You dont need to burn the discs with your jtag Hidden Content you can do it another way will post the link but i know its going to cause me grief Hidden Content

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    And what your asking is the Xk3y that has just been released . You place it between the disc drive and the mobo on the 360 and then you can play games off a external hard drive. You just place the games on the hard drive from the pc and then plug it back into the xk3y and then play them from that. You just load the iso onto the hard drive and your good to go.

    If you look at that link it explains how to get the games from iso format to god containers so you can play them straight off the internal hard drive without the need for the disc being in the tray.

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    Re: XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

    And here was me hopeing this was lt2 released Hidden Content

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    Re: XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

    I am going to do some reading on that link and probably print some instructions out.
    I can usually follow written instructions! Hidden Content

    The Xk3y is a hardware mod then, so definitely your territory.
    That's something I would be interested in for the future because as you know I have some games on different xbox drives.
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    Re: XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

    It is hardware yes but it works slightly differently to the internal one because it emulates the odd drive. Its not needed on the jtag as you can do what i pointed out earlier on in the thread.

    The xkey is more for someone who wants to play backed up games but still wants to play on xbox live as you can use it in bypass mode then you can use originals online and copies offline
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    Re: XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

    That's pretty damn clever!
    So in theory you could download a legit game or game addon content from xbox live, go offline again, then play that downloaded content with your backup game from the hdd?

    So much to learn, so few years left to do it in!
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    Re: XGD3 Official Thread (All info can be found here!)

    Yes but you wont be able to download dlc and arcade games and play them like we do on the jtag as they wont work. You would have to pay for them off xbox live and do it that way. You used to be able to do something called a profile glitch but now you get banned for it as ms spat their dummy out about it Hidden Content
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