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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Hidden Content Originally Posted by thesparky Hidden Content
    with the 2110c it needs to be activated by VM legitly, giving the rom card the ird and bk and tiers needed to work
    is the 2110c a v+ hd box mate ? iam just unsure.

    if so, that sucks if i can get one brand spanking new with matching card but its really no good to me as i need to subscribe it so to get it activated Hidden Content

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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Received the DUAL unlooper and the Phoenix Programmer today!

    Did the magic using the Unlooper.
    @whoami/sparky - winexplorer didn't pop up the IRD of the box as you mentioned
    Got a script successful message though.

    Then, put the card in the programmer. NagraEdit 4.1... "One Step Backup"... Read from the card... "Save to file" (took another backup).

    On the Data Editor > IRD Info - I can see quite a few fields.

    Is "IRD Number" the IRD ?? It does show 4 sets of characters e.g. XX XX XX XX. But these are totally different from what I extracted from the card using the engineer's menu... (back to front... converting dec to bin on scientific calc in windows).
    Which IRD is right? Or am I looking at the wrong field?


    The BK seems to be ok - 8 sets of two characters.

    I take it, before plugging it in, I need to put in the noise filter too?
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Hidden Content I did it !! Hidden Content
    Oh man... what a sense of achievement... doing something you've never done before AND had no clue where to start just a short while back!

    Only possible thanks to you kind folks... without your guides/pointers/help, I'd surely still be struggling. First time? Never!!
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    A kind thank you to whoami/sparky/DD/turner... you guys made me a very happy man today.

    Summarising... the IRD I saw in NagraEdit 4.1 was the right one. The one I extracted from the EM was incorrect.

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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Well done Pande, now your WOD's new resident MOSC specialist Hidden Content
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Hidden Content Originally Posted by thomson Hidden Content
    is the 2110c a v+ hd box mate ? iam just unsure.
    if so, that sucks if i can get one brand spanking new with matching card but its really no good to me as i need to subscribe it so to get it activated Hidden Content
    Thomson, if you got some questions, put them together & start another thread, like dd asked another member earlier in the thread.
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Hidden Content Originally Posted by thomson Hidden Content
    is the 2110c a v+ hd box mate ? iam just unsure.
    if so, that sucks if i can get one brand spanking new with matching card but its really no good to me as i need to subscribe it so to get it activated Hidden Content
    i see a 2110c is a sammy, so i guess thats the small silver sammy and not the v+ box.

    iam more interested in the v+, well for now anyway i mean. but ye, i will start a new thread when i need to, cheers.

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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Update: There's a green blinking light on the front of the box - read somewhere that this is good because it indicates talkback cut.

    Hidden Content Originally Posted by Sicilian Hidden Content
    Well done Pande, now your WOD's new resident MOSC specialist Hidden Content
    Hardly mate. I know I've only scratched the surface. The only thing I've learnt now is the process. They say, the people who have the most problems learn the most... I didn't have any... but I think that's because of the generous help I received from my peers here. I suppose, as I delve deeper into this, I'll learn more aspects and problem solving.
    Am totally delighted to be ABLE to pass this help on to my lost kin folk here! Woooohooooo!!

    Hidden Content Originally Posted by thomson Hidden Content
    i see a 2110c is a sammy, so i guess thats the small silver sammy and not the v+ box.

    iam more interested in the v+, well for now anyway i mean. but ye, i will start a new thread when i need to, cheers.

    In answer to your question - yes. Its the V Box... not the V+ box.

    And yes, the best way forward would indeed be to start a new thread when you're ready. In the meantime, I'd suggest you make lots of notes... it won't make a lot of sense now... but when you actually start doing the stuff, it'll make perfect sense. That's what I did personally... Give us a shout when you're ready and I'm sure there's plenty of people who'll help you along the way.
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Blinking light does mean talkback is cut m8.

    What you did Pande took some balls cos you could have wasted the money you spent on the unlooper, pheonix progger etc... 2110C's can be hit & miss getting the details and the rom11's can sometimes fookup when trying to unloop, so well done you as you could have quite easilly taken an easier option.
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Hidden Content Originally Posted by Sicilian Hidden Content
    Blinking light does mean talkback is cut m8.
    What you did Pande took some balls cos you could have wasted the money you spent on the unlooper, pheonix progger etc... 2110C's can be hit & miss getting the details and the rom11's can sometimes fookup when trying to unloop, so well done you as you could have quite easilly taken an easier option.
    Cheers for confirming re the light mate. Nice one!

    It was a no brainer for me mate... I had just too many things going in my favour!
    - Great willing peers... with a lot of experience and help
    - The box was a home box (well... ish)... so I knew for certain it was not hit
    - I followed the advice and got the best equipment... all it cost me was about 70 quid all in... an investment which would pay for itself in 3 months max.
    - The biggest lure was the ability to actually do it myself. This has always been a blackbox for me till now. I've thought about this a few times before and backed out at the last minute because I didn't know enough.

    Anyway... cheers for sticking with me mate. Particular thanks go out to whoami, Thesparky, TheLostOne, Turner & DD.
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    im glad you got it sorted, enjoy your new found skills Hidden Content
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Okay! So, it was good whilst it lasted!

    - The Sammy 2110 got stuck with a LD:04 message.
    - Tried rebooting the box, it won't come on... just shows it in standby mode... no boot-up sequence (LD... 40...).
    - Tried to get into the EM, but it doesn't want to play ball.
    - Tried to burn the image I'd backed up again and it comes up with an error!

    Message Log

    Opening of COM1 was successful
    ATR String: xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx
    xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx
    ROM Revision: 011
    EEPROM Revision: RevB0D
    ProviderID: 54
    CamID: ** ** ** **
    Using BD3 Key: xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx
    Attempting to login to BD3
    BackDoor login verified
    Dumping Dataspace
    Using BD0 Key: xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx
    Attempting to login to BD3
    Attempting to login to BD0
    Unable to login, bad password detected


    And the attached pic pops up. Not sure what this is about at all ! Please can someone help?

    Do I need to unloop the card again?
    Last edited by fergalsworld; 16-10-2009 at 09:47 AM. Reason: no postin of keys or camid
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    your card wont stop the box from booting m8, it mearly allows the channels to show, remove the card and boot the box,

    in the post above the bd0 is blockered, depending on the blocker depends on the way to get back in, but as i say its not the card
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Ok... so how do I find out what the blocker is?

    BTW... I tried running the "rom11backdoor fixer updated.xvb" script. It ran successfully and said it has set the bd0 pwd to 0... F. Reran nagraedit and tried flashing the rom11 back I had again on the card, got the bd0 prompt and tried the pwd... Nope! Didn't work.

    Tried to unloop the card... it went at it for almost 30min... then I aborted it.

    Ran the MROM tool (hit Repair), and everything went ok !! Back to nagraedit and flashed my backed up image... OK !! Wow... not bad at all.

    Problem now seems to be - The card is (or will be) ok. But the box doesn't boot up... just sitting there with the power button in Standby and nothing on the display at the front!

    Going back to the question... what next? Please help!
    Last edited by pande_monium; 16-10-2009 at 02:01 AM.
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    To open that blockered image just use this Hidden Content

    Regards you box, sorry m8, aint got a clue.
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Been doing a bit of searching mate and i found this
    If its running a splitter then remove the splitter to see what happens next.

    Have u accessed the E_Menu and checked the freq? Also check the SNR rates and signal quality in there.

    Acess the E-Menu by powering on the box while holding in the Ch-Up and Ch-Down buttons. Box will display Ld:14 so keep holding the buttons in for 30 secs.

    Now let go and the box will display PL:15 then fianlly rest on Ld:30 (wait for 45 secs amnd thge box will show snd (E-Menu) )

    While looking at the SNR rates and hopefully theyre 30+db. If not move the cable feed about directly where its going into the box/tuner and see if theres anLd difference.....

    Check page 8 or whatever it is and see "Possible Problems" Also check card status.

    Have u tried booting with no card in? Could be an Image problem or your CAM ID has been hit by a DEAC or an area fault...

    Once youve checked everything then go to page 15 i think and do a warm reset.
    not my work, not sure if it will help or not i agree with thesparky mate i dont think its the card

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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Cheers guys... but you missed my last point.

    The box is NOT booting up at all... its stuck on standby. I've tried disconnecting the power cable and reconnecting... pressing the power button... using the remote to power it up. Nothing ... its just sitting there stubbornly... doing nothing at all !

    Yep... tried taking the card out and booting it too. Still nothing. Its been 20 hrs and nothing's happened to it so far.
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Update !!

    A million thanks go out to TheLostOne for digging up the answer to this riddle. Hidden Content Hidden Content Hidden Content

    Hats off to you buddy... ! I'll take the liberty of posting your answer here so that someone along the way will benefit from your hard work. If you don't feel I should, please feel free to edit/delete this post... hey, you've got the power :Hidden Content : !

    Right, to unravel he mystery... 4 of the 6 capacitors on the power supply unit inside the Sammy have popped. These 6 caps are numbered C11, C12, C13 in the centre of the board, C14, C15, C16 along the left side.

    These caps need to be replaced. Their current spec is 1000uF 10v... but, as TLO suggests, these need to be replaced with 1000uF 16v from Hidden Content (?0.40/cap)... Part number is DT69A.
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    thats great news, i really hope members will learn from this that the card had nothing to do with the box from working, and so not to just jump to a card error

    i will report a tho, as from last monday any old rom10 image will return an AP53 error

    well not exactly an error but the box will freeze at ap53
    this is a new problem but only effects a 4000 pace box on 3.3 or higher

    this is first published here on @WOD by thesparky,

    the simple way around it is:

    boot the box as normal without a card and then put in the card once the box has updated

    enjoy
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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Update (final, I hope!)

    Changed all the 6 caps with the ones from Maplin (DT69A - 1000uF 16v), plugged it in and the box booted up beautifully !! Woohoo!

    Had to re-flash it with rom 11 image though.

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    Re: My Quest towards MOSC.. a 2110 first !

    Nice one bud glad to see you are sortedHidden Content

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