i would just like to say that i was only trying to stick up for the forum in the thread. i dont even have a programmer to do boxes im only just getting into it. and not for profit. i was speaking up for the forum and seem to have made it seem that i myself was the one being a trader. i appologise for making it seem that way. i came on this forum as it is a good place to meet and learn new stuff. i have put in some input on this site and give it freely. the same as every one does. enough now i just thought id say sorry for misunderstanding.